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Trades with WPG, SJS, TOR, NSH, and TBL

Créé par: Rangerfan01
Équipe: 2017-18 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 12 févr. 2018
Publié: 12 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Read my explanation regarding sergachev trade before telling me it's stupid. I know it's long and some hockey genius will find a flaw with it but cap space for the bolts in the future will certainly be a problem. Also not too sure what Logan Stanley's potential is so if someone could explain that I would appreciate it.
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Nash, Rick (3 900 000 $ retained)
2.
NYR
  1. Ryan, Joakim
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
3.
NYR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
4.
NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
5.
TBL
  1. McDonagh, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
McDonagh, R ($2,350,000 retained)
Additional Details: Ok, I know this one will draw criticism right off the bat. Sergachev has been amazing and could be big part of future for bolts. But as of recently Lightning have struggled a little bit. With a good a team as theirs, they're going to clearly be buyers at the deadline. But trading sergachev makes sense for two reasons, the first being their struggles recently. No matter how you slice it, putting trust into a 19 year old on any pair no matter how good they have been is risky in playoffs. McD is a proven commodity who can put them over the top. But the bigger reason is the amount of paydays that the lightning are going to have to give out. Kucherov, Point, Vasilevskiy, and Namestnikov are big names that deserve more money (although I could see him being dealt). Johnson Palat Killorn and Callahan also take up a large chunk of space, along with Stamkos and Hedman (those are no brainers). And even with expiring deals coming up in the next year such as Stralman, sustr, and Girardi, it's not going to be enough. It's going to be difficult to pay all of the guys who need paydays, and something is going to have to give. Even if Namestnikov is traded, it will still be difficult to keep it under the cap. And there are plenty of prospects coming up that can fill roles in the next year or two. Give up Sergachev now, and while its a lot to stomach, getting a first pair defenseman for two seasons at reduced salary (not sure if that would have to be half) is a pretty good deal.
Some of those guys are a long way off from pay raises, but eventually they will hit, and the big contracts no one wants are going to be there.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2275 000 000 $45 961 110 $0 $5 132 500 $29 038 890 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
UFA - 5
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
C
UFA - 1
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
650 000 $650 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG/DD
UFA - 3
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
UFA - 2
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
742 500 $742 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
D
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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12 févr. 2018 à 21 h 35
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For NY, Sergachev is The Return or keep him.
MCDONAGH will maintain past 30...
12 févr. 2018 à 21 h 42
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I like these deals. Except Winnipeg since I think Stanley is trash.
12 févr. 2018 à 22 h 0
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I like these deals. Except Winnipeg since I think Stanley is trash.


Yeah definitely seems like he's kind of far from the NHL. I want to say they could maybe get a better prospect like Roslovic but not sure if Jets are going to agree to that.
12 févr. 2018 à 22 h 11
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Yeah definitely seems like he's kind of far from the NHL. I want to say they could maybe get a better prospect like Roslovic but not sure if Jets are going to agree to that.


My issue isn't with that, he's just a tall, poorly skating, possession lacking, stay at home defenseman, which is exactly what the Rangers don't need.
12 févr. 2018 à 22 h 14
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In order to make the money work, could NYR take Callahan's contract in that trade? That would seem more reasonable in my ears. TB gets a star d-man and NYR gets very promising one and a winger who has had great history with them before. This way NYR doesn't have to retain any of McDonagh's salary, of course.
12 févr. 2018 à 22 h 44
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In order to make the money work, could NYR take Callahan's contract in that trade? That would seem more reasonable in my ears. TB gets a star d-man and NYR gets very promising one and a winger who has had great history with them before. This way NYR doesn't have to retain any of McDonagh's salary, of course.


That's a tough one. I made another armchair gm and it seemed like it could work assuming Chytil and Andersson are ready next year, along with resigning all RFAs. With Callahan, it left about 6 million in cap, assuming cap rises to 78 million. So it's probably doable capwise, but not sure if Rangers would win trade anymore. Lightning give up an elite prospect and offload contract for a first pair D. Might have to add a pick.
12 févr. 2018 à 23 h 14
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Quoting: HockeyOwl14
In order to make the money work, could NYR take Callahan's contract in that trade? That would seem more reasonable in my ears. TB gets a star d-man and NYR gets very promising one and a winger who has had great history with them before. This way NYR doesn't have to retain any of McDonagh's salary, of course.

Nice idea, by the way. So much that a few other people ripped it off in their own trades ?.
12 févr. 2018 à 23 h 44
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Nice idea, by the way. So much that a few other people ripped it off in their own trades ?.


So it seems laugh
13 févr. 2018 à 10 h 20
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I like the trades. However Tampa also needs some depth wingers currently and in the future. Perhaps Nieves can be added as he is a good C/LW player or perhaps Vesey and then Tampa can toss in Raddysh.
McD with salary retained
Vesey/Nieves

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