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You have to give to get so tell me what you think

Créé par: lyc4n
Équipe: 2017-18 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2018
Publié: 11 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Rowney, Carter
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (VAN)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (CAR)
3.
PIT
  1. Domi, Max
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MIN)
4.
PIT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
5.
NYR
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
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2019
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2475 000 000 $70 183 746 $50 000 $1 122 500 $4 816 254 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
734 167 $734 167 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
692 500 $692 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 075 000 $2 075 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
640 000 $640 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
625 000 $625 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
630 833 $630 833 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
G
UFA - 1
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 2
3 333 225 $3 333 225 $
DG
UFA - 5
964 688 $964 688 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 5
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I know CAR would definitely shoot down that deal before you even finished your pitch... They are looking for young guys to build a new corps; there's no way they would give up their first (which is probably going to be top 10) for a guy who's over 30.
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 8
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Not enough for Mcdonagh
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 11
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Quoting: dragonlocks
I know CAR would definitely shoot down that deal before you even finished your pitch... They are looking for young guys to build a new corps; there's no way they would give up their first (which is probably going to be top 10) for a guy who's over 30.


do you know if the playoffs start right now car. would be in a wild spot. so adding I think they would.?
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 14
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Not enough for Mcdonagh


What would the pens have to add? What about 2019 2nd
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 14
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EDM can manage much more than a 4th for Letestu. He's one of the few centers available at the deadline this year; he'll draw a 2nd.
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 19
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
EDM can manage much more than a 4th for Letestu. He's one of the few centers available at the deadline this year; he'll draw a 2nd.


I dis agree he is worth a 2nd but agree they might get better prospect offered.
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 20
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What would the pens have to add? What about 2019 2nd


Late 2nd isn't worth much. Penguins don't have the pieces to get Mcdonagh IMO. Rangers would prob want Guentzal + a 1st and maybe a prospect Sprong?
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 24
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I dis agree he is worth a 2nd but agree they might get better prospect offered.


The market is literally Plekanec, Letestu, and Ryan. Teams pay out the nose during the TDL; Plekanec will net a 1st, and the other two at least a 2nd. Consider that there's decent chatter from Oiler insiders like Bob Stauffer regarding the package of Maroon+Letestu to TBL for Cal Foote. The offer of Rowney and a 4th is equivalently nothing. You said it yourself, you have to give to get.
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 24
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Late 2nd isn't worth much. Penguins don't have the pieces to get Mcdonagh IMO. Rangers would prob want Guentzal + a 1st and maybe a prospect Sprong?


Way over payment I think
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 25
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Trading Murray unsure
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 35
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Way over payment I think


What do you think now
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 37
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Don't understand this at all....trading regulars, Horni and Murray for futures, then trading futures for regulars, Grabner and McDonagh. Carolina certainly don't do that trade especially for a winger. Holden getting a 2nd?
Wanna go in the post season with that goaltending?
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 38
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Way over payment I think


Quoting: BeterChiarelli
The market is literally Plekanec, Letestu, and Ryan. Teams pay out the nose during the TDL; Plekanec will net a 1st, and the other two at least a 2nd. Consider that there's decent chatter from Oiler insiders like Bob Stauffer regarding the package of Maroon+Letestu to TBL for Cal Foote. The offer of Rowney and a 4th is equivalently nothing. You said it yourself, you have to give to get.


If that is the case I would get dad back for the 4 line and be cheaper
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 40
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Late 2nd isn't worth much. Penguins don't have the pieces to get Mcdonagh IMO. Rangers would prob want Guentzal + a 1st and maybe a prospect Sprong?


What do you think now
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 55
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What do you think now


Still think they want a roster player a top prospect and a 1st. Grabner will probably fetch a 2nd/3rd. I don't tilhink Carolina trades their 1st for Hornqvist as they are hesitant to trade their futures
11 févr. 2018 à 12 h 58
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Don't understand this at all....trading regulars, Horni and Murray for futures, then trading futures for regulars, Grabner and McDonagh. Carolina certainly don't do that trade especially for a winger. Holden getting a 2nd?
Wanna go in the post season with that goaltending?


Yes I would go to postseason with this goaltending because look at this D. Now now again to people don't think Carolina will do this trade new owner they are right now in a wild card spot so they will get playoff money in tux sales and TV now domi will be resign and good chance horny will not be. He is going to want 6x6 and pens should not give him that or even 6x5 either so yes sale him. So truly the only rental is grabner and letestu and I could be OK without letestu or maybe getting dad
12 févr. 2018 à 11 h 45
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Wow Murray trade again. Lol

Horny for a first and then flipping that first. There is no reason to trade on of your most productive forwards for draft picks when your a cup contender.
There is no way the Pens get Mcdonagh without including a young defenseman nor should the Pens tie up 30million in there defense.
 
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