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Winnipeg True Cup Favorite

Créé par: scarbrow21
Équipe: 2017-18 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 11 janv. 2018
Publié: 11 janv. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
PHI and CGY both on the cusp right now, would have to be out of it at the deadline. CGY likely doesn't want to move Backlund but without an extension, and being out of it they could use the assets. They also strike a deal where by the pick is conditional in that if WPG re-signs Backlund it becomes a 2nd, if WPG doesn't re-sign backlund prior to June 25th, Backlund is traded back to CGY so they can negotiate exclusively with Backlund between then and July 1st and the 3rd is null.

PHI needs to keep re-tooling. If they're sitting out of it come the deadline only the young core should remain untouchable. Simmonds brings exactly what the Jets need for a deep playoff run this year, with the added bonus he has another year. It's worth giving up Vesalainen, Lemiuex and a 1st for him and no one will think twice if the Jets are able to make the final, or like I think they will...win it all.

Matching up against this top 9 would be next to impossible for most teams, and if the D-core can remain healthy, it can rival Nashvilles.

All it would take then is for Hellebuyck to maintain a similar level of play we've seen all year and there's your cup favorite ladies and gentlemen.


Thoughts?

Larkinisking....you know the drill...move along don't bother commenting as I personally don't want to hear your opinion as it's never useful or constructive
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1.
WPG
  1. Simmonds, Wayne
PHI
  1. Lemieux, Brendan
  2. Matthias, Shawn
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
2017 1st rounder Kristian Vesalainen
Mattais is Cap dump
2.
WPG
  1. Backlund, Mikael
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
CGY out of it at the deadline and Backlund w/o an extension and UFA next season, look to get some assets for him (while still trying to re-sign him again july 1)
CGY
  1. Dano, Marko
  2. Petan, Nicolas
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Erik Foley
Conditional 3rd round pick is a trade back option to CGY after the post season so CGY would get to negotiate again with Backlund before he hits open market July 1
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $71 486 666 $0 $4 850 000 $3 513 334 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Ehlers, Nikolaj
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Scheifele, Mark
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Laine, Patrik
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Connor, Kyle
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
UFA - 2
Little, Bryan
4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Wheeler, Blake
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Perreault, Mathieu
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Backlund, Mikael
3 575 000 $3 575 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne
3 975 000 $3 975 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Hendricks, Matt
700 000 $700 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Lowry, Adam
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Armia, Joel
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Copp, Andrew
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Tanev, Brandon
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Morrissey, Joshua
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG
UFA - 1
Trouba, Jacob
2 812 500 $2 812 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Hellebuyck, Connor
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Enström, Toby
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Byfuglien, Dustin
7 600 000 $7 600 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Mason, Steve
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Kulikov, Dmitry
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Myers, Tyler
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Chiarot, Ben
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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11 janv. 2018 à 9 h 3
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5 stars for exposing Larkinisking when I made a tavares to vegas AGM he said "TavAReS CAn GeT 12 Or 13 MilLiOn oN ThE OpEn MaRkEt"
11 janv. 2018 à 9 h 7
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I don't see why philly would be interested in that trade, why would they want to give up simmonds they are not a very deep team offensively as it is.
11 janv. 2018 à 9 h 11
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Quoting: carlcataclysm
I don't see why philly would be interested in that trade, why would they want to give up simmonds they are not a very deep team offensively as it is.


I feel this is based on the assumption that by the deadline philly's fate this year will be more defined meaning they will know for sure whether its playoffs or lottery by then and this is assuming its lottery
11 janv. 2018 à 9 h 46
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
I feel this is based on the assumption that by the deadline philly's fate this year will be more defined meaning they will know for sure whether its playoffs or lottery by then and this is assuming its lottery


Even so philly's team isn't going to change much there team is close and I think they will be looking to add pieces not dish them out. If anything they will move Filppula at the deadline because he's only got one year left and will be 34 next year.
11 janv. 2018 à 9 h 48
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Quoting: carlcataclysm
Even so philly's team isn't going to change much there team is close and I think they will be looking to add pieces not dish them out. If anything they will move Filppula at the deadline because he's only got one year left and will be 34 next year.


Lucky for them hes been playing well and building up his trade value until recently
11 janv. 2018 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: carlcataclysm
I don't see why philly would be interested in that trade, why would they want to give up simmonds they are not a very deep team offensively as it is.


Simmonds only has remainder of this year and next. PHI would be looking at this as a roster that just isn't good enough to win the cup as they barely squeak into the playoffs the last few years. It's a re-tool around Provorov/Patrick/their young core. They likely won't/can't re-sign Simmonds his next deal (Jets won't either) because of how much of a raise he'll be do. He's vastly outplayed his contract and will be looking to cash in on the next one so why not get younger and another 1st rounder. Vesalainen likely replaces Simmonds maybe not next year, but the year after that (I personally think he's going to be an excellent top 6 50+ point winger) and the other pieces can be used to keep building without having to completely rebuild. The metro is a tough division right now, and PHI if they were smart would try and push that window 2-4 years from now as PIT and WSH will begin to decline and if they play their cards right and stock young, top level talent now they might be able to become a true contender which, let's face it...right now they're not!
11 janv. 2018 à 10 h 52
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I hate Larkinisking lol.
11 janv. 2018 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
5 stars for exposing Larkinisking when I made a tavares to vegas AGM he said "TavAReS CAn GeT 12 Or 13 MilLiOn oN ThE OpEn MaRkEt"


laugh I've never said $12 to $13 million for Tavares that's Karlsson i said $11 to $12 million for Tavares and that's factual.
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I hate Larkinisking lol.


The feelings mutual dude.
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11 janv. 2018 à 12 h 6
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The feelings mutual dude.


lol what are u doing here didnt uread the description?
11 janv. 2018 à 12 h 9
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lol what are u doing here didnt uread the description?


Sure i read but any time someone calls me out i'm going to respond to it like it or not. Maybe if people on here knew how to make realistic proposals instead of garbage ones i wouldn't be criticizing them.
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11 janv. 2018 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Larkinisking
Sure i read but any time someone calls me out i'm going to respond to it like it or not. Maybe if people on here knew how to make realistic proposals instead of garbage ones i wouldn't be criticizing them.


lol im just kidding you can do whatever you want.
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11 janv. 2018 à 12 h 11
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lol im just kidding you can do whatever you want.


We're just on here to have fun, People criticize my post as well and i just take it with a grain of salt.
11 janv. 2018 à 12 h 11
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Quoting: Larkinisking
We're just on here to have fun, People criticize my post as well and i just take it with a grain of salt.


yeah true. Like my new username?
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yeah true. Like my new username?


Awesome man love it.
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Quoting: Larkinisking
laugh I've never said $12 to $13 million for Tavares that's Karlsson i said $11 to $12 million for Tavares and that's factual.


Boo hoo like thats makes a difference you have no hockey knowledge anyway
11 janv. 2018 à 12 h 17
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Boo hoo like thats makes a difference you have no hockey knowledge anyway


laugh Really pretty sure i've more hockey IQ then you my family played it and friends played it i played hockey at Ferris State pretty sure i know more then you.
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laugh Really pretty sure i've more hockey IQ then you my family played it and friends played it i played hockey at Ferris State pretty sure i know more then you.


Well if u say so start acting like it, please !
11 janv. 2018 à 12 h 29
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Quoting: scarbrow21
Simmonds only has remainder of this year and next. PHI would be looking at this as a roster that just isn't good enough to win the cup as they barely squeak into the playoffs the last few years. It's a re-tool around Provorov/Patrick/their young core. They likely won't/can't re-sign Simmonds his next deal (Jets won't either) because of how much of a raise he'll be do. He's vastly outplayed his contract and will be looking to cash in on the next one so why not get younger and another 1st rounder. Vesalainen likely replaces Simmonds maybe not next year, but the year after that (I personally think he's going to be an excellent top 6 50+ point winger) and the other pieces can be used to keep building without having to completely rebuild. The metro is a tough division right now, and PHI if they were smart would try and push that window 2-4 years from now as PIT and WSH will begin to decline and if they play their cards right and stock young, top level talent now they might be able to become a true contender which, let's face it...right now they're not!


I don't see it happening, he is do a raise sure, but its not going to be an exorbitant one, he has proven to be a consistent player with between 50-60 points the last 4 season and reaching or coming to the 30 goal plateau each one. But he has also been a minus player each year even after putting up good points. I say his raise will be between 6.5 - 7mill at the max. He's right in his prime at around the same age as the rest of the core guys. Plus PHI is going to have 38mil in cap space the year simmonds is up with only one other big name to sign in provorov so they will have no problem resigning both thoses guys, in fact I'd be surprised if they didn't extend both of them.
11 janv. 2018 à 13 h 27
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Quoting: scarbrow21
Simmonds only has remainder of this year and next. PHI would be looking at this as a roster that just isn't good enough to win the cup as they barely squeak into the playoffs the last few years. It's a re-tool around Provorov/Patrick/their young core. They likely won't/can't re-sign Simmonds his next deal (Jets won't either) because of how much of a raise he'll be do. He's vastly outplayed his contract and will be looking to cash in on the next one so why not get younger and another 1st rounder. Vesalainen likely replaces Simmonds maybe not next year, but the year after that (I personally think he's going to be an excellent top 6 50+ point winger) and the other pieces can be used to keep building without having to completely rebuild. The metro is a tough division right now, and PHI if they were smart would try and push that window 2-4 years from now as PIT and WSH will begin to decline and if they play their cards right and stock young, top level talent now they might be able to become a true contender which, let's face it...right now they're not!


Have you looked at Simmonds this year? He can't score or produce offense at 5vs5. Why would the jets pay that price for him? He has been regressing the last 3 seasons thats a player you stay away from.
11 janv. 2018 à 15 h 44
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It's funny how people want the jets to add a big name at the deadline and get rid of futures and/or current roster players. IMO the jets should stand pat at the deadline or just add some vets on expiring deals. One thing Ive noticed when jets players and coaches talk, they always mention the locker room and how this group of guys are all friends and have bought in. You don't want to mess with that chemistry.
 
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