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3 way deadline deal with Leafs and Senators

Créé par: baseddougwilson
Équipe: 2018-19 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 5 août 2018
Publié: 6 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Note; This deal is done at the deadline, so yes Nashville has the cap space.

SUMMARY
Toronto
Give up: Andreas Johnson, Connor Carrick, and 2019 1st.
They get: Ryan Ellis

Nashville
They give up: Ryan Ellis, Ryan Hartman, Dante Fabbro, 2019 1st
They get: Mark Stone, Erik Karlsson

Ottawa:
They give up: Erik Karlsson, Mark Stone
They get: 2019 1st (NSH), 2019 1st (TOR), 2019 2nd (NSH), Ryan Hartman, Dante Fabbro, Connor Carrick, Andreas Johnsson

Explanation
Toronto takes a risk by giving away some good futures but if they can find the room for Ellis to re-sign they solve the hole on RD. Also with Mathews and Marner on ELCs and Gardner up for a contract, it's a good year to take a shot.

Nashville upgrades from Ellis to Karlsson making their defense miles better than any other team. they also add a solid two way winger Mark Stone on the right side. They give up a ton of futures but their window is as open as it gets so they might as well go for it. Also If Nashville moves on from Rinne they will have plenty of room to re-sign one of them but probably not both.

Ottawa gets a bunch of picks and young players. The best one being Dante Fabbro.

I realized halfway through writing this that a similar deal could be done with Duchene instead of Stone depending on where Nashville wants to upgrade and if Ottawa thinks they can get more elsewhere.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Fabbro, Dante
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
NSH
  1. Carrick, Connor
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
2.
OTT
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Carrick, Connor
  3. Hartman, Ryan
  4. Johnsson, Andreas
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (NSH)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (NSH)
Rachats de contrats
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2019
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $77 349 166 $0 $1 462 500 $2 150 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 7
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 6
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance962 500 $$962K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 4
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
625 000 $625 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
675 000 $675 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
650 000 $650 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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6 août 2018 à 0 h 35
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Not enticing enough for Ottawa. Will need to add more quality prospects.
6 août 2018 à 0 h 46
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This would be larceny by Nashville. Let’s break down the deal.

If you take Karlsson and Ellis out of the trade, you have Nashville getting Mark Stone in exchange for Dante Fabbro (a top 20 pick going back for his third year of college), Ryan Hartman (a 23 year-old bottom-six winger), and a 2019 1st round pick from the team that had the 29th and 27th picks in the first round in the last two years, and is going to get better with this trade.

Compare that to what Nashville gave up for a comparable player, if not a less valuable player, in Kyle Turris - Sam Girard (same age as Fabbro, already playing a significant NHL role), Vladislav Kamenev (was slotted for a similar role as Hartman with Colorado, but went missed most of the season due to injury; 1 year younger), and a second round pick.

Even if you made the stretch to say that Fabbro, Hartman, and a 1st is enough for Stone, you’re still upgrading from Ellis to Karlsson for free.

Nashville would have to give up at least one other major piece, like Tolvanen, if not more, if this framework was to happen.
6 août 2018 à 0 h 46
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I like the creative angle. It needs some work though.

Best solution here is probably to not stretch for both Karlsson and Stone.
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6 août 2018 à 0 h 55
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Quoting: rtapp326
This would be larceny by Nashville. Let’s break down the deal.

If you take Karlsson and Ellis out of the trade, you have Nashville getting Mark Stone in exchange for Dante Fabbro (a top 20 pick going back for his third year of college), Ryan Hartman (a 23 year-old bottom-six winger), and a 2019 1st round pick from the team that had the 29th and 27th picks in the first round in the last two years, and is going to get better with this trade.

Compare that to what Nashville gave up for a comparable player, if not a less valuable player, in Kyle Turris - Sam Girard (same age as Fabbro, already playing a significant NHL role), Vladislav Kamenev (was slotted for a similar role as Hartman with Colorado, but went missed most of the season due to injury; 1 year younger), and a second round pick.

Even if you made the stretch to say that Fabbro, Hartman, and a 1st is enough for Stone, you’re still upgrading from Ellis to Karlsson for free.

Nashville would have to give up at least one other major piece, like Tolvanen, if not more, if this framework was to happen.


You could argue that Stone's value is less than Turris because he is a 1 year rental and it is well known that Ottawa wants to move him. But I get what your saying. I think if you cut some of the fat and leave out Stone you could get a fair deal.
6 août 2018 à 0 h 56
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I like the creative angle. It needs some work though.

Best solution here is probably to not stretch for both Karlsson and Stone.


That sounds about right
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