Oh Look... another Leafs pipe dream

U really hit the post on that value for Matthews and Gardiner. More definitely could b added.
But Id say the puck is in the net on the other trade.

I think this would be better titled a Leafs nightmare. These trades are horrible. The 2 best players in all of the trades are leaving TO. Matthews is not going to get traded, PERIOD. And all these Nylander for Hamilton trades are being proposed by people who don't understand hockey or team needs. Hamilton is right handed but isn't good defensively and takes a tonne of bad penalties. Toronto already has that type of Defenceman. Trading Nylander for another problem blue liner hurts TO a tonne. Goals are the hardest thing to come by and Nylander creates a hell of a lot more offense than Hamilton does.

So you dont think I should trade Zaitsev and Gardiner then?
Figure I could get more for them? They were only included to try and get some sort of value from Matthew's and Nylander... those guys need some sweetener for the talents of Ferland and Chychrun...

But in all honesty, Hamilton is a stud possession guy... easily one of the better defenseman in the league. 64 Penalty Minutes isnt terrible, sure a little more discipline would be nice and Babcock would provide that. I dont see anywhere that screams problem defenceman from Hamilton. If going off just points, Nylander had 66 playing with Matthews, Marner, PP etc, where as Hamilton had 44 sending off lead passes to Gaudreau and Monahan and sending bombs from the point.
I could change the trade to send Nylander + to STL for Paryako. Paryako is the bonafide top young defenseman in my opinion. But STL isnt looking for more wingers, they need centers.

How about you don't trade Nylander, Marner or Matthews. They are the stars of the team and will be for 10 years at least. Hamilton didn't have such great possession numbers until he was paired with Gioradano. I don't like Hamilton cause he isn't a winner

Matthew's is an elite 1C... Keller is a 1C, playing in Arizona. Had 65 points last season to Matthews 63 (Matthew's played 20 less games though). Matthew's to me wasnt a team player in the playoffs at all. He seemed scared, tired at times, didnt have that drive to win. Granted he could have also been playing injured.
Getting a 1C + Top 4 D + JVR top 6 replacement in Dvorak is decent value... maybe I could send more because Gardiner was included, but I honestly dont think that Gardiner is all that good... great offensively, poor otherwise.