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Redrafting Vegas

Créé par: Matt1567
Équipe: 2023-24 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 14 avr. 2024
Publié: 14 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
My attempt at redrafting Vegas 7 years later to be the best team possible NOW.

This team met the expansion draft requirement, and is cap compliant now also.

To make the challenge a bit harder, every player selected has played at least one game of professional hockey this season, as a lot of the guys I chose made little to no money in 2017 thus making reaching the cap floor in 2017 a challenge, and being able to select retired players who made a lot in 2017 would make the challenge fairly easy.

I also put this team together assuming there were no side deals being done, and used capfriendly's expansion draft simulator to construct this roster.
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $79 466 666 $0 $0 $4 033 334 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Nordstrom, Joakim
775 000 $775 000 $
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ (600 000 $$600K600 000 $$600K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ (50 000 $$50K50 000 $$50K)
DG
UFA - 2
Burmistrov, Alexander
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
Plekanec, Tomas
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
Gelinas, Eric
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
Jokipakka, Jyrki
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
Marchenko, Alexey
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Jokipakka, J.
 
 
 
 

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14 avr. à 19 h 21
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>> I also put this team together assuming there were no side deals being done,

If that's the case then you can't have Theodore. He was traded to Vegas, not selected in the expansion draft.
14 avr. à 19 h 35
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>> I also put this team together assuming there were no side deals being done,

If that's the case then you can't have Theodore. He was traded to Vegas, not selected in the expansion draft.


While he was traded to Vegas, he was not protected for the expansion draft. My guess is that Anaheim chose to use him as a sweetener to convince Vegas to take Clayton Stoner's contract, and would've traded him had Vegas not agreed to take Stoner, that or they would've worked out a different way to protect him, potentially involving a different side deal with Vegas, but in theory Vegas could've selected Theodore, not Stoner, and broke their deal with Anaheim, screwing them over and ruining their GM's reputation on day one.

You could make the assumption that Theodore wouldn't have ended up in Vegas without a side deal, but I didn't and just selected the best player available, which was Theodore
15 avr. à 10 h 21
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While he was traded to Vegas, he was not protected for the expansion draft. My guess is that Anaheim chose to use him as a sweetener to convince Vegas to take Clayton Stoner's contract, and would've traded him had Vegas not agreed to take Stoner, that or they would've worked out a different way to protect him, potentially involving a different side deal with Vegas, but in theory Vegas could've selected Theodore, not Stoner, and broke their deal with Anaheim, screwing them over and ruining their GM's reputation on day one.

You could make the assumption that Theodore wouldn't have ended up in Vegas without a side deal, but I didn't and just selected the best player available, which was Theodore


Theodore was exempt from the expansion draft. The Ducks traded him to Vegas so they would take Stoner as you said, but the two guys they were afraid to lose were Josh Manson and/or Sami Vatanen. Theodore was a side deal and your "rules" in the description was no side deals is all I'm saying. The Knights would have taken Manson in the draft.

This is one of the biggest bungles that Bob Murray ever did as a GM and is one of the primary reasons the Ducks are in the bottom feeder state they are in.
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15 avr. à 10 h 41
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Theodore was exempt from the expansion draft. The Ducks traded him to Vegas so they would take Stoner as you said, but the two guys they were afraid to lose were Josh Manson and/or Sami Vatanen. Theodore was a side deal and your "rules" in the description was no side deals is all I'm saying. The Knights would have taken Manson in the draft.

This is one of the biggest bungles that Bob Murray ever did as a GM and is one of the primary reasons the Ducks are in the bottom feeder state they are in.


as per bleacher report "All pro players with two or fewer years of NHL experience and unsigned draft picks are protected, but don't count toward the team's final total.", and as of the expansion draft Theodore had played parts of 4 professional seasons, making him eligible to be selected, and since Anaheim chose not to protect him he was available for the taking. The Knight's couldn't have taken Manson, he was protected but as you said it was Mason and Vatanen the ducks were worried about, and Vatanen was left unprotected. Had there not been a side deal, Vatanen likely would've been a golden knight, but drafting the team 7 years later Theodore is the clear choice, and he was eligble to be selected due to his 4 partial professional seasons and being left unprotected, and I didn't make any assumptions that the protection lists would've been different had side deals not been agreed upon.
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as per bleacher report "All pro players with two or fewer years of NHL experience and unsigned draft picks are protected, but don't count toward the team's final total.", and as of the expansion draft Theodore had played parts of 4 professional seasons, making him eligible to be selected, and since Anaheim chose not to protect him he was available for the taking. The Knight's couldn't have taken Manson, he was protected but as you said it was Mason and Vatanen the ducks were worried about, and Vatanen was left unprotected. Had there not been a side deal, Vatanen likely would've been a golden knight, but drafting the team 7 years later Theodore is the clear choice, and he was eligble to be selected due to his 4 partial professional seasons and being left unprotected, and I didn't make any assumptions that the protection lists would've been different had side deals not been agreed upon.


Mason was not protected and Theodore was not available:

https://www.nhl.com/news/protected-list-for-vegas-golden-knights-nhl-expansion-draft-289972722

From that article...

All first- and second-year professionals are exempt from selection, as are unsigned draft choices.

The source you quoted calling these guys "protected but not counting towards the team's total" is really strange wording. Much easier to call them exempt, which is what they were. Theodore played 19 games in 15/16 and 34 games in 16/17 for the Ducks prior to the draft. The two seasons he played less than 10 games in the AHL didn't count as his contract slid in those.

An additional part of Murray's bungle here was giving Bieksa, who was washed as a player at that point, a full NMC. All players with such clauses required protecting and that meant the Ducks protected Fowler, Lindholm and Bieksa. Protecting Manson instead of Bieksa would have been an alternate way around trading Theodore but that was not an option.
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