What would it take

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Devils pass.

Toffoli at 50%+3rd for Ullmark

I just don’t see that as a super interesting deal as others that could be present.

The original deal is not even close to value.

I’m curious how much retention of Vanacek would you take with Holtz for Ullmark.

I didn't think it would be but if boston does want Toffoli involved he would be in place of a 1st.

Based on the alleged offer of Holtz for Markstrom with 2 mill retained, my expectation would be something like Holtz for Ullmark (2 mill retained)

Or 1st+2nd+3rd (2nd could be sent to a 3rd party who retains on Ullmark instead of boston)

Or boston sends a 2nd for another team to retain on Ullmark.

And then maybe NJD also dumps vitek to that team.

I'm happy to swap in picks or other assets for Holtz who I'd rather not move at all

Remember Markstrom makes $1m more and Ullmark is younger.

I would think the number would be closer to a million on retention for a Holtz for Ullmark deal or Boston takes Vanacek with 500k to $1m in retention.

I agree that a draft pick discussion will be more fruitful.