Havent we learned yet

Créé par: JeffGorton

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 6 févr. 2024

Publié: 6 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Légende

Gaucher

Équipe initiale

Exempté du ballottage

Droitier

Position

Clause d'échange

Max. Bonis de perf.

Statut à l’échéance du contrat

Terme restant

McDavid, Connor

12 500 000 $ ( Bonis de performance

250 000 $)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

Im seeing way too many Zegras to Montreal trades where the Habs give up either multiple 1st rounders or their own 2025 1st with additional assets. As if the Dubois saga didnt just happen a few months ago. Kind of the same situation as well. Young "star" player doesnt sign long term with team, gets their big deal and starts stinking up the place

Dubois and Zegras are somewhat similar. Both have "behavior and effort issues", both were 65 point players with PR suggesting they might be 80+ point player.

I dont touch Zegras unless the deal absolves the Habs on a cap dump. Like the trade would have to be so much in the Habs favor based on public perception that theres a less than 0.00001% chance it happens.

Like seriously, take a moment an think rationally about this. The Ducks are rebuilding and Verbeek has shown to be a very competent GM, but they are unwilling to give their 23 year old "superstar" a long term deal and then trades for what seems to be his direct replacement in Gauthier. Even without the performance and attitude rumours, this smells funky

Transactions

MTL

Zegras, Trevor

ANA

Anderson, Josh
Barron, Justin
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

This is the most id give up for Zegras with my explanation above. Of course this doesnt happen, since the Ducks can scam some other team and get Dubois like assets for him. Habs shouldnt be willing to do that

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	76 000 416 $	1 170 000 $	3 977 500 $	7 499 584 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Gignac, Brandon 775 000 $775 000 $ C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Condotta, Lucas 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG UFA - 2
	Zegras, Trevor 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3	Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2		Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

Commentaires populaires

6 févr. à 16 h 40

mv21227

Rejoint: juill. 2020

Messages: 11,688

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That’s probably not even enough to dump Anderson

Would you trade Caufield for that? Because he and Zegras are very similar. Zegras has a slightly higher career PPG, and can also play center though. Both are defensive liabilities

6 févr. à 16 h 41

MoSeider53

Banni

Rejoint: août 2022

Messages: 16,292

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That might get you out of Andersons contract, but it sure doesn't get you Trevor Zegras, Verbeek laugh

and politely declines.

Warpbox a aimé ceci.

6 févr. à 16 h 49

JeffGorton

Jeff Gorton

Rejoint: oct. 2020

Messages: 2,294

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Quoting: mv21227

Theres no way you think Zegras and Caufield are at all comparable. Only similarity is the fact they are american. Both play vastly different games and have vastly different attitudes.

Caufield, Fox_Czar_Cup et Just_A_Guess a aimé ceci.

6 févr. à 16 h 50

JeffGorton

Jeff Gorton

Rejoint: oct. 2020

Messages: 2,294

Mentions "j'aime": 550

Quoting: MoSeider53

That might get you out of Andersons contract, but it sure doesn't get you Trevor Zegras, Verbeek laugh

and politely declines.

"Of course this doesnt happen, since the Ducks can scam some other team and get Dubois like assets for him. Habs shouldnt be willing to do that"

Caufield et Just_A_Guess a aimé ceci.

6 févr. à 16 h 52

Caufield

Demigod

Rejoint: sept. 2022

Messages: 4,644

Mentions "j'aime": 2,530

Quoting: mv21227

Cole and Z have the same scoring per game this year. The only difference is that Zegras’s “scoring” is in terms of pts, while Cole’s is in terms of goals. They’re not even comparable

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