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Franson. PIT trade

Créé par: DontToewsMe19
Équipe: 2017-18 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 6 sept. 2017
Publié: 6 sept. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
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Droitier
Position
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Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Hawks can role with 7 defenseman this year:
Keith-Murphy
Kempny-Seabrook
Cole-Franson
Forsling/Rutta (Rotate them between 7th guy and scratch.) Because of this, we would only have 13 forwards.

I've done a trade where it's AA for Cole straight up, but I got some feedback saying that the Pens should add more. A 3rd is the max I'll do as the Hawks get a d-man, they remove AA's contract to allow pay for Hartman, Schamltz, and Hayden. And Schmaltz will get 2C with Kane and Sharp as long as his face offs get better. Fransons final 4 team list was leaked, and it may not be completely true, but it's believable enough for him to come to a Chicago.

I have been agasking not the possibility of Jagr coming to Chicago, but if we move AA, and Schmaltz plays 2C, then Jagr could be a reliable 3rd line winger. Sure he's a bit slower and he's old, but he still put up 46 points last year and if he plays with Hayden and Hartman, he could consistently put up those numbers. He'd get PP time too.
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UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
12 500 000 $
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  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $63 607 295 $3 558 000 $1 275 000 $11 392 705 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AD, C
UFA - 2
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 6
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
872 500 $872 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 275 000 $5 275 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4

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6 sept. 2017 à 9 h 2
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I know you post a lot on here and I do think you're a knowledgeable fan. As a Hawks fan I don't want this AT ALL! Cole's fine on the bottom pair, but you're still trading a proven #2C for a bottom pair Dman. AA's contract is far from a hindrance. I get that he's not a point machine, but that's hasn't been his job. In fact...his job was be the only defensive forward on a line with two offensive juggernauts. Maybe we'll see a different story now with Panarin gone, but I don't even want him to change his style of play. Try another shooter opposite Kane. I know we can't straight up replace Panarin, but it's better to have two lines that can score over just one. If we're talking about overpayment...Franson's $2M is overpayment. That may be what he wants, but he stinks!

I'd rather have stronger center depth than jagr on the right. AA, Schmaltz, Kero. Hayden played center for Yale, but hasn't really sniffed the position in the NHL.
6 sept. 2017 à 10 h 1
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I know you post a lot on here and I do think you're a knowledgeable fan. As a Hawks fan I don't want this AT ALL! Cole's fine on the bottom pair, but you're still trading a proven #2C for a bottom pair Dman. AA's contract is far from a hindrance. I get that he's not a point machine, but that's hasn't been his job. In fact...his job was be the only defensive forward on a line with two offensive juggernauts. Maybe we'll see a different story now with Panarin gone, but I don't even want him to change his style of play. Try another shooter opposite Kane. I know we can't straight up replace Panarin, but it's better to have two lines that can score over just one. If we're talking about overpayment...Franson's $2M is overpayment. That may be what he wants, but he stinks!

I'd rather have stronger center depth than jagr on the right. AA, Schmaltz, Kero. Hayden played center for Yale, but hasn't really sniffed the position in the NHL.


Agree with most of this. He is knowledgeable, Cole isn't great, AA's contract is fine, and he does a good job in the role he is given. AA isn't a GREAT #2C but he does exactly what the Hawks need and he's the only true center Kane has had in the last 6-7 years.

I don't think 2M is that much of an overpayment for Franson. He has played on mediocre to bad teams most of his career while still putting up decent production and possession numbers. He will be great for the 3rd RHD spot on the Hawks.

Hayden could get a shot at center this season. Remember that he only played like 13 games for the Hawks last year and some of it was next to Toews. The Hawks pretty much had their centers last year in Toews, AA, Kruger, & Kero with the option of Schmaltz.

I still like the Panarin-Saad trade in that I believe Saad is a overall a more valuable player to the Hawks organization. Kane has played well no matter who was on his opposite wing. In fact the last year the Saad-Toews line was together Kane was having a career year with Richards and Sharp before his injury. I would have to say that AA is better than Richards was at 35 while Sharp obviously won't be what he was at 33.
I'm hoping Tyler Motte doesn't develop into what I think he is going to be. I have a feeling that unless Forsberg is a great backup for Chi CBJ may come out of that trade a winner because of Motte.
6 sept. 2017 à 11 h 7
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Agree with most of this. He is knowledgeable, Cole isn't great, AA's contract is fine, and he does a good job in the role he is given. AA isn't a GREAT #2C but he does exactly what the Hawks need and he's the only true center Kane has had in the last 6-7 years.

I don't think 2M is that much of an overpayment for Franson. He has played on mediocre to bad teams most of his career while still putting up decent production and possession numbers. He will be great for the 3rd RHD spot on the Hawks.

Hayden could get a shot at center this season. Remember that he only played like 13 games for the Hawks last year and some of it was next to Toews. The Hawks pretty much had their centers last year in Toews, AA, Kruger, & Kero with the option of Schmaltz.

I still like the Panarin-Saad trade in that I believe Saad is a overall a more valuable player to the Hawks organization. Kane has played well no matter who was on his opposite wing. In fact the last year the Saad-Toews line was together Kane was having a career year with Richards and Sharp before his injury. I would have to say that AA is better than Richards was at 35 while Sharp obviously won't be what he was at 33.
I'm hoping Tyler Motte doesn't develop into what I think he is going to be. I have a feeling that unless Forsberg is a great backup for Chi CBJ may come out of that trade a winner because of Motte.


Great Analysis. I agree with the point on Motte/Anton. I do think Motte will be a quality 3rd liner when he's fully developed because he's got the grit and blocks shots like crazy for a forward. Also clearly some scoring ability in college which will show flashes from time to time @ the NHL level. I think the side pieces to this trade are really about two players @ similar talent levels not getting a chance. Motte probably wasn't going to crack the line-up this year for the Hawks and neither Forsberg even though he's pretty darn good in his own right. As of today I trust they made the right move with the (2) side pieces as well because heck the last two backups (Darling/Crawford) have worked out pretty good. Hopefully Wouters develops into the following backup goalie 4 years from now. Berube's just the if all else fails.
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