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Draft ideas

Créé par: pavelisgoat
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 13 mai 2023
Publié: 13 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Description
My take: Leonard is the best chip from the draft we can hope to end up with. Reinbacher would be my second but it seems likely we try to draft Willander and I’m ok with that. Let’s say that Leonard is gone at 9. With not much differentiating the next 5 or so forward prospects, wings would be in a good spot to trade down with a team who might covet Reinbacher/Asp and needs to jump St. Louis and Vancouver.

Nashville trade - picks 15 and 25 (if Edmonton loses this round) for 9 and 43. This is almost bang on value wise with the draft value chart. Wings will still get a chance at someone from Moore, Barlow, Danielson, Yager, Perrault etc.

Toronto trade - move up to #28 by acquiring Boston’s 1st for #42 and eating Matt Murray’s contract. Nothing new here, ensures lots of cracks at the second wave of talent.

#15 - Moore
#17 - Barlow
#25 - Willander
#28 Stenberg

Maybe a touch optimistic those guys will be there in those spots, but putting the idea out on how we can land a bunch of the guys we want if we don’t get the really top end guy. Draft best available RD at pick 41 as well.
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Would be willing to add something like 2024 4th to ensure deal gets done
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13 mai 2023 à 3 h 19
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Pick 9 = 6.3; pick 43 = 1.9
Pick 15 = 4.9; pick 25 = 3.4
13 mai 2023 à 3 h 45
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I wouldn't trade 9 for 15 and 25 by itself, let alone the 2nd thrown in
13 mai 2023 à 4 h 4
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Quoting: ItsAlwaysSunnyInDetroit
I wouldn't trade 9 for 15 and 25 by itself, let alone the 2nd thrown in


It would be a draft day trade, with the board having to shake out in a way that made sense for us to not pick at 9. But 15 and 25 either way are easily ahead of 9
13 mai 2023 à 4 h 15
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Quoting: pavelisgoat
It would be a draft day trade, with the board having to shake out in a way that made sense for us to not pick at 9. But 15 and 25 either way are easily ahead of 9


No actually, #9 and the players available are in a whole different tier than #15---if the picks go anywhere close to as expected. Then you have the Wings eating a huge salary and doing a pick swap of a 2nd for a 1st. Doesn't seem the best use of assets. Klingberg isn't going to want a short term deal at his age.

Beyond that the best they can hope for is Matvei Michkov falling because of KHL/3 yr commitment issues.

Next would be: Dalibor Dvorsky(perimeter shooter with lack of NHL speed so will be limited to a winger in the NHL). Offensively talented with both wrist shot and one timer accuracy. Uses his size to win puck battles and compete. Could be a 1st line winger.

Then the tier below:
Ryan Leonard (shoots right. college commitment to BC) is more a responsible 200 foot RW'er that has skill (hands) with physicality but won't be great offensively or defensively as he lacks playmaking skills (vision) and size (5' 11.5"). 2nd line RW'er. His player comparable is Artturi Lehkonen.

Oliver Moore has speed (best skater in the draft with NHL elite edgework) and a bit of scoring touch (but will be more of a 2nd line winger/#3 centre). He should be available. He is the USNTDP 2nd line centre and is on PP2 and PK1. His player comparable is Jean-Gabriel Pageau.

Gabe Perreault (lack of NHL speed so NHL winger) broke Auston Matthews' USNTDP single season point record (but so did Will Smith). Great stickhandler. Can score. projects as a 2nd line winger. Player comparable Lucas Raymond.

Brayden Yager(high end shot) all-situations center. Hasn't put it all together yet as his scoring didn't materialize this past year (lacks vision to get it through). Middle six player. Player comparable Vincent Trocheck.

You do realize this is Detroit's last year to take advantage of UFA with other teams hampered by the Covid escrow cap restrictions? Look for them to be active on that and in the trade market (where they have excess draft capital).
13 mai 2023 à 5 h 9
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No actually, #9 and the players available are in a whole different tier than #15---if the picks go anywhere close to as expected. Then you have the Wings eating a huge salary and doing a pick swap of a 2nd for a 1st. Doesn't seem the best use of assets. Klingberg isn't going to want a short term deal at his age.


I’m confused here as Dvorsky and Michkov in the upper tier you speak of are likely taken and I wrote in my description that I would like to target Leonard and if he’s gone, then that is when you do this trade. So it’s on draft day after you see how the top 8 shakes out.

On top of Leonard you list off 3 players in that tier. Now if you mean there’s only those 3 and then there’s a significant drop again, then sure you might be right that 9 to 15 would miss out. But unless you’re an nhl scout and no malice intended, that’s just not going to be the case. Every team is going to have a board with different guys in different orders. This is a trade we’d make if we missed out on a certain player or 2 and had a larger block of guys in our next tier. I don’t think it’s as black and white as Yager, Perrault and Moore and that’s it. But I guess we’ll see on draft day, maybe those 3 do go between 9 and 13.

As for the rest, Klingberg is just a slot filler and I’m not sure what you suggest with the cap and covid escrow? You criticize taking on Murray but think they should go out and target a bunch of ufa? It’s not a very strong class so I’m not so sure that’s the case. I wasn’t focused on filling the roster anyways, just presenting draft day trade ideas
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