Meier cost conversation

Créé par: yikes

Équipe: 2022-23 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2023

Publié: 20 févr. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Équipe initiale

Exempté du ballottage

Droitier

Position

Clause d'échange

Max. Bonis de perf.

Statut à l’échéance du contrat

Terme restant

McDavid, Connor

12 500 000 $ ( Bonis de performance

250 000 $)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

I only include a 4th asset as teams maxs

Like I don’t see WPG willing to part with their package PLUS more than a 3rd. Etc, you get the idea.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Johnson, Ryan		2	800 000 $

Transactions

SJS

Gunler, Noel
Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

Détails additionnels:

about what Carolina would max out at I'd guess

CAR

SJS

Lucius, Chaz
McGroarty, Rutger [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

Definitely Winnipeg's max (I think they'd rather keep Lambert)

WPG

SJS

Brisson, Brendan
Cormier, Lukas
Dean, Zach
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VGK)

Détails additionnels:

I think Vegas would be willing to offer up extra to nab Meier away from the others

VGK

SJS

Holtz, Alexander
Mukhamadullin, Shakir
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

can't leave without Holtz+1st - and the only way NJD could outbid VGK, WPG, CAR. He's equal (at worst) or better than Morrow+1st, Rutger+1st, Cormier+1st.

This brings it down to every teams 2nd piece, Gunler+2nd are equal to Lucuis+3rd. Dean+Brisson leads me to seeing if VGK would part with those 3 (keeping their other D prospects) they're in the lead as I think VGK would definitely want to outbid WPG (both teams want to win ASAP). This leads me to seeing the Devils (who require a Meier extension to trade) need to beat:

Brisson
Cormier
1st (2023)

at minimum if we want exclude Gunler/ Lucuis/ Dean.

This again brings me back to Mukhamadullin. Vegas I think would easily give up Cormier and Brisson; they're such a wild team they'd take this swing. You can't beat Cormier with Walsh or Bahl.

NJD

SJS

Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
Kulich, Jiri
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)

Détails additionnels:

And lastly we have Buffalo, who knows Holtz/ Cormier are probably on the table. By my own structural assumption Buffalo needs to top:

Holtz/ 1st/ B+ prospect (Muk)
Cormier/ 1st/ B+ prospect (Brisson)

Here NJD look like they have the edge.
So now we get Buffalo involved.
Sabres fans have said it would probably be Kulich and I think Johnson is a no brainer.

BUF

wildcard - Buffalo appears

SJS

I think if youre San Jose - have to "accept" any offer of:

Holtz/ 1st/ Muk
Cormier/ 1st/ Brisson
Kulich/ 1st/ Johnson

wpg/ car come second (although I do like Morow/ Rutger)
any assets you get on top of that trio is great. I would find it hard to believe though that Vegas isnt going to attempt to throw those 3 at the Sharks - which is why I suggest the other two values.

NJD

SJS

NJD

Brisson, Brendan
Cormier, Lukas
Dean, Zach
Gunler, Noel
Holtz, Alexander
Johnson, Ryan
Kulich, Jiri
Lucius, Chaz
Mukhamadullin, Shakir
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (WPG)

SJS

Ill go with Buffalo winning the bid - as I believe they want to push for the playoffs and really try and kill off Ottawa/ Det as I don't see either making as big of a move and it would take away NJD's addition as well.

BUF

SJS

Savoie, Matthew
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BUF)

Détails additionnels:

Now I only bring this up as to have a discussion. The Sharks were incredibly high on Savoie (believed to be the reason why the Sharks traded back) - would Buffalo entertain that move to keep Jiri who looks closer to NHL ready? It also surely confirms Buffalo cannot be outbid and they lose less total assets? Just a thought.

Worst of the 3 2nds go to SJS

BUF

Meier, Timo (3 000 000 $ retained)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)

Détails additionnels:

Actual package like Johnson, Kulich, 1st + whatever

Rachats de contrats

Martin Jones: 2 416 667 $
Rūdolfs Balcers: 8 334 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Brent Burns: 2 720 000 $ (34%)
Timo Meier: 3 000 000 $ (100%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	82 500 000 $	74 605 834 $	0 $	425 000 $	7 894 166 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Eyssimont, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Hertl, Tomas 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ C NMC UFA - 8	Labanc, Kevin 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Barabanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 5	Kaut, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (425 000 $$425K) AD RFA - 1
Gregor, Noah 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Bonino, Nick 1 025 000 $1 025 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Svechnikov, Evgeny 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Lindblom, Oskar 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Sturm, Nico 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 3	Lorentz, Steven 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 4	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Kähkönen, Kaapo 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 2
Ferraro, Mario 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DG UFA - 4	Benning, Matthew 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Reimer, James 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Cicek, Nick 835 000 $835 000 $ DG RFA - 2	MacDonald, Jacob 762 500 $762 500 $ DG/DD UFA - 2
Harrington, Scott 750 000 $750 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Kunin, Luke 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2	Nutivaara, Markus 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (250 000 $$250K) DG/DD UFA - 1
	Simek, Radim 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2
	Gadjovich, Jonah 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Savoie, Matthew 950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C RFA - 4
Bordeleau, Thomas 916 667 $916 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AG RFA - 2
Eklund, William 894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG RFA - 4
Robins, Tristen 797 500 $797 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 3
Raska, Adam 848 333 $848 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (60 000 $$60K) AG, AD RFA - 2
Gushchin, Daniil 828 333 $828 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) AG RFA - 3
Coe, Brandon 850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) AD RFA - 2
Hatakka, Santeri 850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 2
Knyzhov, Nikolai 850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG/DD UFA - 1
Laroque, Gannon 867 500 $867 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD RFA - 4
Mäkiniemi, Eetu 867 500 $867 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (32 500 $$32K) G UFA - 1
Kniazev, Artemi 789 167 $789 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (132 500 $$132K) DG RFA - 2
Mann, Strauss 842 500 $842 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) G UFA - 1

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20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 25

MarcBergevin69

Marc Bergevin

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Savoie and two 2nds would be a fleece by buffalo compared to the rest of these deals, if they have interest in Meier

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20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 27

glarson17

Rejoint: juin 2019

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Holtz hurt his hip today, pass on him until we know what that is.

Pass on Savoie and no 1st coming back

I wouldn’t accept a 1st, Brisson and Cormier deal from Vegas, certainly not a must accept like stated in the trade.

The others are good but certainly the ceiling of what I see Meier getting. Carolina must have is Morrow, Buffalo must have is Kulich, and to me devils must have is Hughes or Nemec but we all know what their fans will say about that

20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 28

yikes

CELEBRINI IS A SHARK

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Quoting: MarcBergevin69

Savoie and two 2nds would be a fleece by buffalo compared to the rest of these deals, if they have interest in Meier

Do you mean Buffalo fleeces SJS (just to clarify).
I think the Sharks scouts are really high on Savoie - so I’d bet Grier would do something like that. Just to open the conversation.

20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 29

yikes

CELEBRINI IS A SHARK

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Quoting: glarson17

You can’t be serious on Hughes or Nemec.
That’s never gonna happen: but if Grier somehow swings that I’ll eat it. But I’d put a large portion of money down Muk/Holtz is the Devils top offer.

As for Savoie see my comment above.

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20 févr. 2023 à 18 h 39

glarson17

Rejoint: juin 2019

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Quoting: yikes

It was never confirmed San Jose was in on Savoie, that type of stuff never comes out. Just pure speculation. I’d be fine with Savoie but there has to be at least a 1st coming back. I don’t see the rentals so far this season going for a ‘23 1st and Meier not get one.

As far as the Hughes Nemec deal, Grier has to shoot for an A prospect and both are exactly that. Sharks are thin at D, there’s many teams interested in Meier and they don’t have to move him. Everyone continues to think he has to be moved which he doesn’t. Sharks would be just fine retaining the services of a likely 40+ goal scorer. Grier has made it clear that if you want him you have to step up and force him to accept an offer he can’t refuse. Hughes or Nemec would do that and beat out any other suitors.

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SJS

CAR

SJS

WPG

SJS

VGK

SJS

NJD

SJS

BUF

SJS

NJD

SJS

NJD

SJS

BUF

SJS

BUF

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