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Forum: Armchair-GM2 juill. 2019 à 10 h 19
Sujet: Post-Braun Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shark63</b></div><div>I've seen your point from the start, but do you see my point? Your roster won't work half the season. Your 20 players eat up all the salary cap. You couldn't carry ANY EMERGENCY players at home or away. you even state they'll carry emergency players when on the road. If they're carrying emergency players on the road, their salary counts towards the cap. Under the scenario i have given you where two players become incapacitated for whatever reason, you have no back up players ON OFFICIAL 23 MAN ROSTER to replace them. DeBoer can't run down the hall and tell a player put your gear back on you're playing. That player HAS TO BE ON OFFICIAL ROSTER THUS THAT EMERGENCY PLAYERS SALARY will COUNT towards CAP whether he plays or is scratched. Only way your scenario works is if players are injured, how many times have you've seen a bottom 6 forward sit one night then play the next. It can't happen the way your team is composed whether it's a home or away game. Never seen a team purposely start a game with 5 Dman. They've always pulled that emergency(extra) player from the 23 man roster. And those EXTRA(EMERGENCY) PLAYER'S SALARY count to CAP.
And I understand your scenario of sending guys back to AHL at home but that's 41 games and players can only be sent down so many times before waivers become an issue

Another example- you have your 20 man roster under the cap by 160K.
Kane is granted permission by Sharks to leave team to care for personal business. His replacements salary (player #21) joins the team. His salary is 600K. Player 21 salary can't replace Kanes since he is not injured. It has to be included now 21 players over cap NHL won't allow. Hence, why teams carry 3 emergency (healthy scratch) players whether at home or away you can't predict what life will throw your way and neither can a NHL GM.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shark63</b></div><div>I've seen your point from the start, but do you see my point? Your roster won't work half the season. Your 20 players eat up all the salary cap. You couldn't carry ANY EMERGENCY players at home or away. you even state they'll carry emergency players when on the road. If they're carrying emergency players on the road, their salary counts towards the cap. Under the scenario i have given you where two players become incapacitated for whatever reason, you have no back up players ON OFFICIAL 23 MAN ROSTER to replace them. DeBoer can't run down the hall and tell a player put your gear back on you're playing. That player HAS TO BE ON OFFICIAL ROSTER THUS THAT EMERGENCY PLAYERS SALARY will COUNT towards CAP whether he plays or is scratched. Only way your scenario works is if players are injured, how many times have you've seen a bottom 6 forward sit one night then play the next. It can't happen the way your team is composed whether it's a home or away game. Never seen a team purposely start a game with 5 Dman. They've always pulled that emergency(extra) player from the 23 man roster. And those EXTRA(EMERGENCY) PLAYER'S SALARY count to CAP.
And I understand your scenario of sending guys back to AHL at home but that's 41 games and players can only be sent down so many times before waivers become an issue

Another example- you have your 20 man roster under the cap by 160K.
Kane is granted permission by Sharks to leave team to care for personal business. His replacements salary (player #21) joins the team. His salary is 600K. Player 21 salary can't replace Kanes since he is not injured. It has to be included now 21 players over cap NHL won't allow. Hence, why teams carry 3 emergency (healthy scratch) players whether at home or away you can't predict what life will throw your way and neither can a NHL GM.</div></div>

Except they dont carry 3 at all times, they carry 1 or 2 quite often and in your scenario kane gets placed on a list and his salary opens up, same as IR
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2019 à 12 h 48
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2019 à 12 h 43
Sujet: Sharks 2019-2020
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Missouri</b></div><div>Gunnarsson will bring in slot more. Bibeau isn't good enough to be a backup and Thornton would want more. Also Carolina isn't buying out Marleau.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Missouri</b></div><div>Gunnarsson will bring in slot more. Bibeau isn't good enough to be a backup and Thornton would want more. Also Carolina isn't buying out Marleau.</div></div>

Gunnarsson contract is based on Evolving Wild projections. Thornton may command more like 3, but I think he just wants to play with whatever is left. Carolina is going to have to buy him out. He wont play there so they can either grant him his freedom or waste a roster spot at 6 mil to have him rot on their roster.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 juin 2019 à 9 h 15
Sujet: Post-Braun Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shark63</b></div><div>In order to be deemed a "scratch" for the game, they have to be on the roster.

"Both the 23-player active roster and 20-player game roster can change day-to-day and game-to-game. All changes to the team’s 23-player active roster must be cleared through the NHL’s Central Registry before the move is considered finalized (and before the player is eligible to play in a game). In most cases the clearance from Central Registry is simple and completed in a nominal time span. Changes to the 20 players on the game roster are even easier – the list is submitted to the NHL official (either referee or official scorer) by the team (usually the head coach) moments before the start of the game. Prior to submitting the list, the team can choose from any members of its 23-man active roster.

As for the 20-player game roster, according to Rule 5.2, “Only players and goalkeepers on the list submitted to the Official Scorer before the game may participate in the game.” The rule further states that any goals scored while ineligible players are on the ice are subject to be disallowed – at the time of the goal – and the ineligible player(s) removed from the game with the offending team not allowed to replace the ineligible player’s roster spot. However, the rule continues, “No additional penalties are to be assessed but a report of the incident must be submitted to the Commissioner.”

And what I'm trying to explain to you is if your team existed IRL is when you go to use those 3 empty spots with AHL player A, B, C, they have to be on the 23 player ACTIVE roster list. Those players (ABC) will count towards the salary cap even if "healthy scratched" for that game.
Hypothetical situation, during pregame warm up, All the Barracuda players are out there skating with the Sharks, one of them hits a slapshot and hits Burns in the eye. Burns can't play since his eye is swollen shut. Erickson pulls his groin exiting the ice and can't play. Under your team build-up you have no backups as there is no one on the 23 man ACTIVE roster. Head coach can't use any of his Barracuda players because his GM(you) only gave him 20 ACTIVE NHL players. He only has 4 D men to play the game. Hence why most teams carry 3 extra(healthy scratch) players on the active roster (2-F &amp; 1-D) and those contracts count towards the cap.
Another example, Pavelski was deemed a GTD. Went out and skated, exited the ice but was scratched. His replacement AHL (Grambrell) had to be on the 23 active player list before DeBoer inputted him on the 20 man game day roster. Grambrell now makes 21 on roster. All 21 players contracts can't total more than the cap and under your team scenario, you couldn't make it work.</div></div>

You literally just proved my point. The players can be at the game and not be on the 23 man roster which is why you have seen them when sometimes the team is only carrying 20. They typically only carry 20 at home unless there is a guy who can't be sent down due to waivers. Usually when they are home, they send down any extras so they can get some playing time with the Cuda. On the road you typically carry extra for emergency. When a guy is placed on IR his cap comes off the books thus opening the cap space for a replacement to be formally added. It's not that complicated.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2019 à 14 h 56
Sujet: Post-Braun Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shark63</b></div><div>uhh ok, you must not go to too many Shark homes games. I average 15-20 Shark games a year and have yet to see them not have healthy scratches and their AHL team is in house. And have watched when Sharks, specifically, go on a East Coast road trip this past season where Haley plays first, second, fourth game. Radil played third game. Those 21-23 players sitting in the rafters their salary counts to cap. Your "team" above is 160K under cap, Heed gets in doghouse with DeBoer. Pull up an AHLer, that salary puts your team over cap (21 players now)</div></div>

AHL guys can be at the game dressed as "scratches" and not formally be on the roster....they're still a part of the organization and more importantly, still people. They have to be on the roster to play or take warmups.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 juin 2019 à 14 h 54
Sujet: Karlssons Sharks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hyawkus</b></div><div>the two should be moved to alleviate cap space and get useful future assets. With 26.5M per year for 3 defs, you'll need to have some cheap ELCs for the next 6 years to still be contenders</div></div>

They've got guys in the wings. Doug Wilson has done a ridiculously good job of not only hitting on the rare 1st round pick they keep but also signing long term the guys they trade 1st round picks for. In order to stay competitive, you have to find useful players later in the draft or via Free Agency which he has also done.

If they can avoid having to trade either, thats a very solid D-corps. If they have to trade one in order to keep enough pop up front, that can be done too. I'd be surprised to see them move both.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 juin 2019 à 14 h 43
Sujet: Karlssons Sharks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lime</b></div><div>Timo and Labanc are gonna ask for more, Timo probably in the 5 mil range for a bridge contract and Labanc around 3.5 mil. Braun my not be worth keeping considering you now have arguably the two best RD in the league, you can get rid of Braun's contract and sign Heed, for example, who is cheap and has the ability to improve a lot.</div></div>

Yeah, the point is, they have options. People are "gloom and doom" over the amount. That's the price of being a perennial contender. Have to pay to keep talent. Meier is the real priority, if he won't take a bridge like guys in the past, you pay what you needed to and move on from Labanc or it's a strong possibility they trade Braun or Dillon this weekend knowing that they can't re-sign them next year and they're now 3rd pair D at 3+.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 mai 2019 à 10 h 6