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Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2019 à 15 h 8
Sujet:
Laine
This is a terrible trade for the oil!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 août 2019 à 1 h 45
Sujet:
Mostly Realistic Home Opener
I am a longtime oil fan but I don’t see this happening unless the oil kicked in more pieces and value. if they did buying rask out is a terrible move in my opinion, he can still be effective in many spots in the oilers line up, still has potential, term and youth. you have way to much tied up in tweeners including 2.675 mil on the bench, Rasks buyout costs 2.925, you have room to keep rask.
Bouchard and persson can rotate for their 9 games but unless Bouchard wows people he should be sent down, truly even if he does he should be sent down. Rask gagner, nygard, granlund, jujjhar, brassard, kass, and donato and haas should all be fighting tooth and nail for ice time, this will raise the compete level. If you have to dump cap gagner is on an early expiring deal and has value, start with
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Armchair-GM
19 août 2019 à 16 h 57
Sujet:
Check it out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ccc</b></div><div>Minnesota laughs and declines as JP has 100+ nhl games, that’s kinda not a prospect anymore. That’s you basically trading your garbage (benning and kassian) with a 1st for Dumba, which is like me offering Tim Heed Melker Karlsson Suomela plus a first for Klefbom. And the flames would like cap space, they don’t want Russell < Frolik while addin cap, not helping their situation</div></div>
I think the flames would take russell personally, he is a serviceable d man that can play both sides and fill in the top 4, hes got vet leadership and they still save 300 k on frolik as well as getting a prospect and a pick. For the next two years it provides them with a useful dman and next yea rhe can be traded easy enough so not a huge commitment.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 août 2019 à 16 h 54
Sujet:
Check it out
Fellas i really like this discussion on this trade, thats what i was looking for. I think everyone on both sides have very valid points which logically makes this trade somewhat do able, now i do think minnesota might have wanted more but in the end its a GMS job to sell a trade and get the best end of it, i had toyed with adding another pick or prospect to the mix but id prob want a lesser pick coming back. I am not a benning fan but he is actually not that bad and took a big step forward last year, i think him and kassian provide minnesota with suitable roster players and kassian is an improvement on a few of their players that are looking to start. I wouldn't want to send yamamoto and JP in the same trade but i would consider sending a prospect like gambardella or maybe one tier less. However I do think Minny is going to change a ton this year and Dumba might be available.
I think the thing people are overlooking is the fact that they are freeing up 6 million in space allocated to 1 player and using 2/3 of it to sign two useful roster players for the season and then getting some assets in the process. While Dumba is a solid Dman i do not think he is in the upper echelon and this trade is fairly close.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 23 h 10
Sujet:
Feedback - Step 1 - cap dump
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spleenmaster1002</b></div><div>Connor for 7-7.5 long term and Laine around 7 for a bridge, around 9 long term</div></div>
I think Connor is prob asking for 8 8.5 long term right now so that makes sense, he will have to come down a bit, that Hayes contract kind of inflated things for those 50-65 pt guys and Laine at 9 long term is a bit scary but make sense, he can score but I’m not sure he has that drive to play at an elite level for 8 more years
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Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 22 h 49
Sujet:
Feedback - Step 1 - cap dump
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spleenmaster1002</b></div><div>Jets don’t do that, we need that space that Kulikov frees up to re-sign Morrissey next year</div></div>
Fair enough, there’s a few teams this trade could be made with and if we kept russell it has no real impact this year. Russell is undervalued in ways so him and kulikov are not far off but that makes sense, how much do Connor and Laine sign for this year?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 20 h 21
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>They don’t need him, they’d be just fine.
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Just fine. They would not take him back in a trade. Would be a deal breaker.</div></div>
I can understand that, oilers would the be forced to alter trade to make it happen, what do you think gets the deal done?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 20 h 19
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>I know and I like Gagner but the Rangers are capped out already and still have to sign Deangelo and Lemieux, they really have no space for Gagner, if they're moving Namestnikov it's for cap space and taking back Gagner plus Pulujarvi who needs a contract doesn't give them any cap relief.</div></div>
Hence the addition of the picks and extra prospect, in the real world its a gms job to Sell his trade and the saving of 2 million in switching gagner for namest and the assets involved is why i made that trade. If the oil had to retain a bit more salary they would but i think gagner would interest rangers at 1.75 or 2 mill
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 20 h 5
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Ghost is on the block because they have more Dmen than spots to play them so why would they need Russell to fill the void when their is no void to fill?</div></div>
The dman they have are still young and with injuries struggles etc russel would still have a purpose plus he’s solid enough to play young guys with, they need vets still so there is sense to it the assets the get are the main point behind it
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 20 h 2
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Don't matter who you intend on playing him with you still don't overpay.. Lol
A 3rd and a cheap to bury cap dump like Brodziak or Manning should be more then enough, Namestnikov didn't put up any more then Vesey did and he went for a 3rd. Pulujarvi and picks is way too much plus the Rangers aren't gonna want Gagner' cap hit, at least Mannings or Brodziaks are almost nothing when buried, Gagner's would still be like a $2M hit I think if he's sent down.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Don't matter who you intend on playing him with you still don't overpay.. Lol
A 3rd and a cheap to bury cap dump like Brodziak or Manning should be more then enough, Namestnikov didn't put up any more then Vesey did and he went for a 3rd. Pulujarvi and picks is way too much plus the Rangers aren't gonna want Gagner' cap hit, at least Mannings or Brodziaks are almost nothing when buried, Gagner's would still be like a $2M hit I think if he's sent down.</div></div>
Gagner was on pace for 33 pts last year so he’s still a serviceable winger who can play almost anywhere, he works hard and plays smart plus he’s ufa at end of year too so it’s less risky. The 4th was supposed to be conditional in that namest had to put up 45 pts to get the 4th. As for JP his value is low so it’s not as bad. Namest still has potential and can play top 6 now it’s a better trade then on paper
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 19 h 42
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>I really like what you've done with the defense, actually. Each pair has someone who can shut someone down, and the top pair adds a ton of skill.
No idea why everybody is dumping Brodziak. Real heart and soul guy. Good on faceoffs, too. Overall, good team.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>I really like what you've done with the defense, actually. Each pair has someone who can shut someone down, and the top pair adds a ton of skill.
No idea why everybody is dumping Brodziak. Real heart and soul guy. Good on faceoffs, too. Overall, good team.</div></div>
I don’t mind brodziak he had a bad year but f we kept him I wouldn’t be sad just had plans that don’t include him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 19 h 41
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>The Jets farm team already has too many defensemen as it is so they don't need Manning.
You're really really overpaying for Namestnikov, he'd be a good addition for the Oilers but that's way too much for him.</div></div>
I agree it’s a bit of an overpay but I’m making this trade based on the fact that he will play with mcd or nuge and Neal which should bring him back to the 40 plus point guy we need
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 19 h 39
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cheddamonkey37</b></div><div>Jets can’t afford him and he wouldn’t even make the team</div></div>
As of right now they could and before last year he wasn’t that bad, but I don’t have enough info on jets dman so this trade could have been sent to a diff team it’s low impact
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 19 h 38
Sujet:
The Answer - Step 1 - Cap Dump trade JP krussell and gagner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>Why would philly take a cap dump back for Ghost?</div></div>
Well I mean Russell isn’t just a cap dump he’s a serviceable vet d man for 2 yrs and they are getting prospects and picks so that’s why they would take him. He fills the void left by ghost and they get solid assets
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 16 h 13
Sujet:
The Solution - Year 1 of 3 - Dump Cap Sign D and get a top 6 RW
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>Ltir doesn’t shed the contract it’s only to help team. Go read the rule.<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq">https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq</a>
Team that have player on ltir can spend over the cap but still have to pay the player
And is salary the salary count
When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR. There are three equations that are used to determine the LTIR relief, the first, the basic equation, can be used during the season and during the off-season. The second, the training-camp equation, can be used on the final day of the off-season in preparation for the first day of the season. The third formula is used when the team already has a player on LTIR.
That from the nhl cba</div></div>
You know what, I was just reading that, I was wrong on my perception of it for sure. I knew they still had to pay the player and etc but where I got mixed up was the difference of not freeing up cap space just allowing to over spend in the amount that’s tied up In LTIR and in that case then yes oilers would have to restructure that deal to dump manning, I knew most of the LTIR info just not the effect on cap floor. As far as saying your a tool was more just joking cuz you told me not to make year 2. The trades were not even crazy bad They were minor impact players except for the ghost trade and obviously I would want to win that I mean some gms are stupid lol I do take responsibility for the cap floor misunderstanding tho and now I got to learn a bit so. Works for me.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 16 h 3
Sujet:
The Solution - Year 1 of 3 - Dump Cap Sign D and get a top 6 RW
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Talking_Senators</b></div><div>lol to all these trades.
Ottawa has already hit the floor. We don't need two cap dumps.
Columbus are already extremely low on picks.. They won't trade one for brodziak..
Ghost is worth way more than that package</div></div>
You have no clue if Columbus would take brodziak, they are short of bottom six center depth and brodziak has tons of experience and had a bad year by his standards but averaged 30 plus the few seasons before. Giving up a 6th Rd for a bottom 6 good face off guys is not out of the question at all, now with that being said I understand what your saying in the same token but Columbus has tons of cap and lack of experience so you can’t say I’m wrong and your right just like in the end I can,t it’s to minor and too close
As for Ottawa and the floor see my other comment about the LTIR and cap floor
Ghost is worth way more.... I dunnno he had 39 pts last year but is bad defensively, he is on the third pairing so I can see what you mean but in the end the end goal is to still win the trade so what am I supposed to bend over on each trade lol chiarelli there have been worse trades made in real life lol
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Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 16 h 0
Sujet:
The Solution - Year 1 of 3 - Dump Cap Sign D and get a top 6 RW
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>They already are 5 millions over cap floor! And no but a least a b prospect. Ottawa won’t take contract just for your satisfaction, oilers would need to add for sure</div></div>
As far as I know they are at the cap floor with three players and 15.3 that will eventually designated for long term injury, I was under the understanding that those are taken off the cap as soon as season starts, do they still work towards the cap floor when designated to LTIR even though it doesn’t work towards the cap ceiling? If so then I def get what your saying and in that case a better prospect t and maybe sending a pick back would have to be involved to get manning off the books for sure but it I mean it’s not that far off but I can understand a prospect being sent back.
If that is the case what is the trade that Ottawa would make? With the same mane pieces.? Take out jurco and add a better prospect?
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Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 15 h 57
Sujet:
The Solution - Year 1 of 3 - Dump Cap Sign D and get a top 6 RW
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>I can see that your new to this site, just a piece of advice... You shouldn't create a thread asking for people's opinions then call them a tool for giving theirs because you don't agree.</div></div>
My tool comment was because you said “don’t make year 2” not because of your actual opinion on the trade, that I understand I can see his POV but in the md both companies contracts are 1 year and an be buried. In the end the 6 and 7th pick is not a big impact on outcome of the team so whatever it would take to trade manning for a high pick would be done. Jurco can be buried so it’s a pretty minor part of the overall plan. However looking at the depth chart manning might be a decent low risk for the sens for a year but I get why they wouldn’t either
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Armchair-GM
18 août 2019 à 2 h 32
Sujet:
The Solution - Year 1 of 3 - Dump Cap Sign D and get a top 6 RW
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>Please don’t make year two! Why ottawa would pay to get horrible contract? Cap dump would cost a prospect a least</div></div>
Hahaha Tool, you know what the cap floor is right? Ottawa wants to be T the cap floor and completely retool their team, this trade is not far off base at all, even if the oilers threw in a prospect it wouldnt be a top prospect, both of these players are gone at the end of the season so its not unlikely nor would i care if it was only a 6th round coming back, those picks are far from impactful but why wouldnt i want the scales tipped in my favour a bit? Thats the name of the game.
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Armchair-GM
16 août 2019 à 2 h 5
Sujet:
Take a look and let me know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Blues have no need for Brodziak, and it's a flat no on the other trade.</div></div> brodziak provides the buriabledepth and he knows organization, brodziak could go to other teams as well but St. Louis isn’t out of question. Especially in the scenario that barbashev gets traded. As for the other trade you don,t know that for sure, as far as value goes it’s not crazy off base, gunnarsson is a scratch right now and barb is an Rfa threatening to go to Europe and was just a second round pick that finally had a decent year def has more upside but the throw in of a third helps get it done but it could easily be turned down as well. In this scenario it’s accepted
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2019 à 19 h 44
Sujet:
Take a look and let me know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Njb45</b></div><div>He won't get the minutes ,behinf Is McDavid and Nuge. Mom my would eat salary to offload that one. I like Rask, watched him in Carolina. Bottom 6 center / needs wings to carry the play. Take the picks out .</div></div>
I can understand that opinion, the one pick was conditional but i mean if i was negotiating in real life i would have tried a 1 for 1 with him and gags first and then went from there haha but i figure this is what minny would want as rask still have more upside
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2019 à 19 h 1
Sujet:
Take a look and let me know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Njb45</b></div><div>Minnesota better be retaining salary on Rask. He is worth a straight up for Gagner and at least 1 mil retained.</div></div>
In this scenario there is no salary retained, rask has had a rough two years with his injury and the trade but the fact is he is locked up for a few years and with the right team i think he goes back to being a consistent 40 pt player. Gagner is 4 years older and on an expiring contract, while he is still serviceable he is not worth more then rask or equal in a straight up trade.
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2019 à 17 h 32
Sujet:
Luck of Irish - Solution 2
once they can move their injured players on to LTIR they have space available, this trade would obviously be dependent upon them making the moves necessary to sign marner and then have the space to get benning, they could use a bit more experience in the 3rd pairing d spot but your not wrong in many ways, assume this trade is to any one of a bout ten teams that would prob make this trade or similar too was just a cap dump for oil
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2019 à 14 h 58
Sujet:
Luck of Irish - Solution 2
Do you mean balance as in spread out the talent amongst the top 3 lines? I didn't do too much on the lines and just left a strong top 2 lines but i def get what your saying if thats what you mean.
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Armchair-GM
31 juill. 2019 à 10 h 52
Sujet:
Solution 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Why do you hate draft picks?
Oh, and that Nurse trade is ridiculous.</div></div>
this team is far and away a better team then any oilers team we have iced in the past decade hands down
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