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Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 18 h 38
Sujet:
Moving out - getting worse to get better later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Blocks it as in doesn't waive or don't want him?</div></div>
Zucker doesnt waive to go to Calgary
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 18 h 20
Sujet:
Moving out - getting worse to get better later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>How about Zucker and prospect Nathan Legare?</div></div>
Zucker probably blocks it I would guess.
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Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 18 h 12
Sujet:
Moving out - getting worse to get better later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Ahh haha cool. Yeah, I mean, I'd love Markstrom on the Pens. How about Magiapane? What would it take to get him?</div></div>
That is a good question! I would be loathe to deal him but probably a 2nd and decent prospect (maybe more?)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 18 h 8
Sujet:
Moving out - getting worse to get better later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HikinenNisti</b></div><div>Giordano is overpaid and regressing so his value isn't worth much. Ghost is overpaid, but he still got good offensive production so dumping him probably costs around a 2nd rounder. So lets say 1st rounder = 2 2nd rounders, we are basically giving up 1 1/2 first rounders for Giordano who we don't even need.</div></div>
Again, yes you have currently players that play the position but that doesnt mean you dont try to improve right?
Just because you have a #1 dman, you dont turn away another one! There just isnt that many players that can play top pair being shopped regardless of age.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 18 h 5
Sujet:
Moving out - getting worse to get better later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan89</b></div><div>That’s literally highway robbery of the pens. Absolutely not even close. You want the pens to take Markstrom then Calgary should be adding lol. Markstrom ain’t worth a top prospect that’s nhl ready, a decent goalie prospect, a 2nd, and a starting goalie that’s better than Markstrom and on a better contract. No thanks</div></div>
That's some pens colored glasses right there. Said with love. Granted he actually MADE the playoffs but had a .888% against the islanders......
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Why the rush to get rid of Markstrom?</div></div>
No rush really. Just felt as though the pens would be a good fit. I found it tough to find a partner for any of the other big forwards. Except Lindholm, even in online trades I refuse lol.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 16 h 54
Sujet:
Moving out - getting worse to get better later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HikinenNisti</b></div><div>Philly passes hard on that. Philly doesn't need another LD and you aren't getting that big return for Giordano.</div></div>
Philly was a disaster last year defensively. You might have left shot D's but ya'll need left shot D's!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LittleBroDougie</b></div><div>That Tkachuk deal is very rough.</div></div>
You think? Need more current players? More picks? I thought roster player, top prospects, and two decent selections was close to market value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 16 h 46
Sujet:
Moving out - getting worse to get better later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Markstrom most likely won't waive. We aren't trading Tkachuk unless we get a 1C. We wouldn't trade Markstrom unless we are rebuilding</div></div>
This is exclusively in rebuild mode.
You have mentioned this on a few threads that you essentially want back the player you are trading (Tkachuk for first line Center). Can you please explain why that helps the team moving forward? If you want to get better in the future, you want future players hence one of florida's top forward prospects and two selections. I can see maybe getting a top center prospect though like Lundell but I would be confident he is 'untouchable' for Florida.
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Armchair-GM
19 juin 2021 à 16 h 39
Sujet:
Insane First Line for Columbus
As an unbiased third party (flames fan), I would think one more piece to the Eichel scenario (prospect likely) and I doubt a first for Jenner.
But that's just me lol
Nice one!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 juin 2021 à 19 h 13
Sujet:
Overhaul The Core
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevorchef</b></div><div>If you want both Eichel and Reinhart it would start with Tkachuk, Andersson and one of Mangiapane or Lindholm and two 1st round picks.
How do you feel about it now?</div></div>
Ok but why? If they want to rebuild (again... poor Buffalo fans), why would they want to add these guys that are going to be likely past prime when they are competitive again?
Would it not make more sense to get the best prospects?
Whats the point of swapping first lines basically. Tkachuk is better than Reinhart I would argue (also younger). Eichel who needs neck surgery AND wants out of town nets a first line center Lindholm (who is less than half price which is important in this discussion), Andersson, and two firsts?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 juin 2021 à 18 h 54
Sujet:
Experimentation
The only thing that worries me is the 7X7 for Nuge.
Dont agree with <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>penguins don't want Gaudreau</div></div> totally as they likely want to compete with their core as long as possible. Id want a first back though!
Nice one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juin 2021 à 19 h 36
Sujet:
Changing the culture
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>Not a chance in hell that gets you Eichel at 3 million retained.</div></div>
I am unsure what people think Eichel is actually going to net them. He has a massive ticket and needs (wants) NECK SURGERY.
Getting two first round selected prospects, an excellent top 6 winger, and two first rounders is about as good as it gets.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 20 h 27
Sujet:
One team to rule them all
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>Get rid of McDavid and replace with MacKinnon, upgrade your goaltending, I’d improve the RW. Taking McAvoy over Ekblad.</div></div>
Cool
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 17 h 47
Sujet:
On the fly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabres923</b></div><div>Sabres are going to have 4 or 5 Left defenseman that are better than Kylington next season.</div></div>
Based on their great record this year?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Danault will get a Pageau deal in my opinion. 6 years 5M.</div></div>
For what? He isn't a great scorer and defensive forwards are not compensated that much.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Backlund and Philly decline, it will cost a lot more to dump Lucic</div></div>
Backs might decline, I will give you that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 17 h 44
Sujet:
Blockbuuuuuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Josi has shown no signs of slowing down and is their captain. There's no chance he gets moved. (He has a NMC too)
Who does Arvidsson have on his line? He would produce much more playing next to Tavares.
What makes you think Marner can keep up that same scoring pace and figure out his playoff issues in Nashville without Matthews?
Good chance Rielly walks which makes the trade even worse for Nashville
Lijegren hasn't been able to make the NHL in almost 4 years. He won't be able in Nashville with Ellis, Fabbro, and more on the right side</div></div>
You cant trade someone based on what they MIGHT do in their next spot. Arvi just as easily could be done and washed and then who wins the trade, right?
And for a team that barely made the playoffs, you sure seem to highly value the pieces. Cant be empirically bad and still think they are worth a lot.
Why wouldnt Josi go? Hes a lot closer to winning in TO than he is in Nash. He would be a hero there if he won
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 17 h 18
Sujet:
On the fly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HikinenNisti</b></div><div>Philly declines for two reasons. 1. We don't need any centers. 2.Konecny alone should be more than enough for Monahan.</div></div>
Dude was healthy scratched was he not?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 16 h 37
Sujet:
Just do something useful
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Are you suggesting a rebuild? They definitely arent rebuilding. Upgrading Monahan to Eichel should definitely make the team at least close to a contender</div></div>
I would say re-tooling. Strome and Monny are a wash (age wise) and getting a first for Lucic is a steal. Good bit of business.
All I would say is that trying to get Eichel may be cost prohibitive
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 16 h 25
Sujet:
Blockbuuuuuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>You mean an overpaid winger that can't perform in the playoffs, a defenseman with one year left, a defensive prospect that hasn't cracked the NHL yet, a late first for a top defenseman that just won the Norris last year and is the captain of the team and a winger on a great contract?</div></div>
top pair defensemen CURRENTLY thats already 31 with 6 more years at over 9 mill a season. How long do you think that lasts for?
Winger on a reasonable contract who doesn't score anymore (and i like Arvi) - he scored less than .5 pts/per game last two seasons. $4.25 for 40 points?
Cant only point out flaws in half of the equation.
Marner was top 5 in scoring this season and is only 24. Time to figure it out.
Rielly could easily resign or just let him walk and have cap flexibilty.
Lijlegren is a prospect. They havent made it into the NHL thats the point. Remember Drouin for Sergachev? He was a prospect then too (not a totally fair example but still).
and you still get a first rounder to potentially select a solid player.
This is fun!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 16 h 7
Sujet:
Just do something useful
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>The team clearly underperformed this year. They should definitely make the playoffs next year</div></div>
I would agree but whats the goal? make playoffs or win? From the watching the playoffs this year, I cant see them making noise anytime soon (and trust me I would kill for that to happen).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 16 h 4
Sujet:
Blockbuuuuuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ggha777</b></div><div>NSH says no to that</div></div>
you are high if you think Nashville says no lol they get a top 5 scorer, top pairing D, young potential upcoming D, AND a first for an aging winger and your top D man?
Poile does it laughing
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 15 h 46
Sujet:
Just do something useful
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>In a vacuum yeah probably, I dont see Lucic waiving though and we do actually value him as a team leader and enforcer despite his cap hit. I would definitely do this if we can flip Strome and the 1st for someone who can actually improve our team like Eichel though (of course there would be more added in though)</div></div>
but why? We are not close to winning and a young(ish) center with a first round pick? Would probably hold onto that
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 15 h 45
Sujet:
Flyers crucial offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Flames decline. Hanifin is the only LD that is gaurenteed to be on our roster next year. Gio and Kylington could be selected and Valimaki could not make the team/be traded</div></div>
I am not so sure... we are not even close to winning currently and if you get that many assets (two first rounders) for a guy thats only now stepping into that role.... I would take a long look.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2021 à 15 h 39
Sujet:
Just do something useful
As a flames fan, we accept.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
5 juin 2021 à 14 h 17
Sujet:
flames full rebuild nhl 21 style
big swings!
1. That JG trade is not enough return for top line LW.
2. Dunno if Columbus wants to trade the younger players when potentially doing rebuild after Jones leaves.
3. Hart will bounce back, Philly wouldnt trade for Marky. Plus, we took back a lot of risk (Vorachek age, Nolan concussion and performance).
Like the attempts though.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
1 juin 2021 à 16 h 34
Sujet:
Thoughts
I am with GMonwy - you want Marner gone but want other teams to pay a premium. Doesnt add up. Top line left wing and top pair dman for a guy getting ran out of town (even if top player) BUT i think its close.
Tkachuk and Anderson or something
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