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Forum: Armchair-GM9 mai 2021 à 19 h 22
Sujet: Wilson Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>When did I say Nylander was a point per game? I said points per game are nothing. It's a garbage way to compare players. Nylander is a 60-70 point player on Toronto because he's the 4th or 5th player to get the puck. Put him on a team where he's the go to guy and he'd be over a point per game. But that isn't shown in stats. Nylander is far far more the offensive player that Wilson is. Bryan Rust isn't a star player. He's a complimentary player. He plays with Malkin and Crosby, if he has a lesser centre then he wouldn't be anywhere near his point production. That's why points per game is a garbage stat to compare players by. Because it's just a point, it's not saying how he got those points.

Look at Draisaitl for an example. Just looking at his point per game pace at 1.49 and you'd think he's a top 3 offensive player in the league. But is he when you break it down?
47 EV strength points - 27 of them McDavid has factored in on (57.4%)

32 powerplay points - 25 of them McDavid has factored in on (78.1%)

79 total points - 62 of them McDavid has factored in on (78.4%)

30 total goals - 21 McDavid has recorded an assist on (70%)

30 total goals - 14 of them McDavid had the primary assist on (46.6%)

So without McDavid, is Draisaitl at 1.49ppg and is he hyped up like he is now? Absolutely not. That's not to say he's a bad player, he just may be one of the most overrated in the league.</div></div>


Point production is absolutely a great way to evaluate players. You say if rust had a lesser centre than he wouldn’t produce at the rate he does… meanwhile Nylander also plays with an elite centre so where is your excuse there??? Nylander is probably better than rust but Nylander is closer to a player like Rust than he is to actual elite forwards. Nylander is overrated. Bottom line. He produces at a 60-70 point rate like many other dime a dozen forwards. If you take Nylander off Toronto his production wouldn’t improve LOL it would likely go down.
Forum: Armchair-GM9 mai 2021 à 15 h 43
Sujet: Wilson Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>So can Nylander. In a legal way. &amp; point per game are nothing. If you don't think Nylander creates more offence than Wilson Althea I'm sorry but you don't know hockey. As for Wilson's physicality, I'd rather Hyman over Wilson who are similar types of players, but Hyman isn't dirty like Wilson.</div></div>

Since when was Nylander a PPG? Nylander is literally a 60-70 point player vs Wilson who is 50-60 points. Nylander produces at a similar rate to Bryan Rust yet gets pegged as a star because of the market he plays in. He is a good player, but Wilson does so much more. Nylander produces more than Wilson, but not significantly more considering everything else Wilson brings

I think when comparing Willson to Willy, it just boils down to what your team needs more. I’d say they are in a similar tier in terms of importance
Forum: Armchair-GM9 mai 2021 à 15 h 28
Sujet: top 3 north team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>No, the leafs were not wrong about Kap. They traded a player from a position of strength for necessary cap space for Brodie (who has been 10 times as important to the leafs as Kap), and a first round pick. Great trade for both teams.</div></div>

100% it was a great deal for both teams. Leafs did well on the return, pens got a player who has helped them win games this season. I’m not denying that at all. But Lyle_Bubas keeps saying Kap is an overpaid 3rd liner (which is so untrue). He needed a change of scenery, he got it, it’s worked out for both teams so far. This guy just can’t admit he was wrong about a certain player. Its been a win-win trade so far, he’s just arrogant and can’t admit he was wrong
Forum: NHL Trades9 mai 2021 à 15 h 25
Sujet: (PIT/LAK) - 2022 conditional 3rd round pick + 2023 conditional 4th round pick for Carter
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>You have to prove that he was actually a good player when Pittsburgh traded for him. Stop using Hindsight when it's not possible at the time of the trade. Pittsburgh overpaid for him for the player he was in LA. It's as simple as that.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>They gave up a 3rd + 4th for a presumed 3rd/4th line center with term on his contract. My take was correct and you've done nothing to prove it wrong (besides using hindsight)</div></div>


Dude you’re digging yourself into a hole again…

If you just admit that you were unaware of the retention, then no problem. But you’re dying on this hill that pens overpaid and Carter was washed up and those two statements are so wrong. Even on LA he was on pace for nearly 20 goals and 40 points playing with zero help. That type of production for a 3rd and 4th at 2.5 million is good value lol
Forum: Armchair-GM8 mai 2021 à 22 h 24
Sujet: Another Pens Shut-Out bring on the Isles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>There we go buddy!! Caps won in OT, only 1 point!! Bring on the Islanders!! And Boston Vs Caps.

Pens riddled with injuries and still win the best division in the NHL.!! Hahaha.

I’m glad we took last years 1st round pick too and gave Minnesota’s this years!!

And trading that 1st round pick and Hallander was a joke for Kappy. The consensus on here was definitely that it was a horrible trade.

Kappy’s played great. 30 points in 38 games and Nylander on the Leafs had 40 points in 48 games. 10 out of 11 goals from Kappy on 5v5. Kappy a plus 15 and Nylander a plus 11. Very similar seasons..lol.

Big loss for the leafs!! Great gain for the Pens!!</div></div>

Absolutely man! Cheers!

Although there is still a chance we play Boston. Bruins need to get at least 1 point out of their last 2 games.
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