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Armchair-GM
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 38
Sujet:
Three New Faces
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brolekb2b</b></div><div>For 3M Colton stays in Tampa</div></div>
You say that as if you have the cap to afford him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 juin 2023 à 23 h 21
Sujet:
MasterClass
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Sharangovich's QO is 2.05, and 2m is a lot for a 4C for McLeod</div></div>
Just going off of AFP analytics contract projections: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y8djdJG5PBDpRBge1_g2w4llcwUjSYqKlMlccVN58Hk/htmlview
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Armchair-GM
9 juin 2023 à 12 h 4
Sujet:
MasterClass
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>I really hope we don't give Haula, McLeod, and Sharangovich those deals</div></div>
McLeod and Sharangovich arent that far off from their projected extensions. Haula is the only overpay.
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Armchair-GM
27 févr. 2023 à 18 h 33
Sujet:
Tom Wilson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dickie_boon</b></div><div>add a first or smthg. we have no incentive to trade him</div></div>
You do have incentive. Your team is old and sucks. Regardless of Ovi's chase, WSH's window is closed. History dictates that pending UFAs on old team rarely resign, so you should trade him now when his value is at his highest. Having a player like Wilson for 2 playoffs has proven to bring back value.
Holtz and Sharangovich together is an <strong>excellent </strong>return, in fact an overpayment. That is nearly better in quality overall than what SJ got for Meier
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 39
Sujet:
Meier - Thoughts - Part 2
I love how you are TheRealisticGuy but gave Wood a 4x4 contract as if he deserves that....
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 févr. 2023 à 0 h 11
Sujet:
For Fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CB37</b></div><div>If the 24 2nd is upgraded to a 24 1rst.</div></div>
thats excessive
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 4
Sujet:
NJDVS
I'm more tilted at the fact that this kid spelled "accept" as "exept" in the Anaheim trade
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Armchair-GM
4 févr. 2023 à 10 h 58
Sujet:
is this fair
makes no sense for NYR to trade for Timo. their long term cap situation would be horrible.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 févr. 2023 à 10 h 57
Sujet:
For Fun
Devils fan here-
Would you just be down to take on Johnssons contract?
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
30 janv. 2023 à 23 h 25
Sujet:
Realistic TDL
Can we just please stop trying to make Anderson a thing?
It will never happen. Move on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 janv. 2023 à 0 h 29
Sujet:
Meier and the flyers
I honestly don't think Timo is gonna cost that much.
There are too many cap strapped teams and teams utilizing LTIR. It's going to be a buyers market.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 janv. 2023 à 0 h 46
Sujet:
Canucks 22-23
Downgrade Nemec to Mukhamadulin
Remove a 1st and replace with someone like Sharangovich
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Armchair-GM
13 janv. 2023 à 15 h 56
Sujet:
tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>xercuses</b></div><div>Blues would also get a better offer from somewhere else anyways</div></div>
Honestly, I don't think so anymore. An expiring contract for someone over 30, who just got injured again. Yes we know he's Tarasenko, but a late 1st is probably the best of value pick you'll get unless STL added.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 janv. 2023 à 15 h 47
Sujet:
Jakub Vrana Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>After the fact guy. Spineless. Have fun at the Cup parade today.</div></div>
This response isn't as strong as you think it is
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 janv. 2023 à 23 h 38
Sujet:
Jakub Vrana Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>They won't. Go **** yourself.</div></div>
<strong>THIS AGED WELL</strong>
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 janv. 2023 à 23 h 37
Sujet:
cup contender or not
Cap aint gonna be that high next year so ultimately this roster doesn't work
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 janv. 2023 à 23 h 35
Sujet:
NJD po
This should be called "How to needlessly blow up an entire roster for no reason"
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 janv. 2023 à 23 h 33
Sujet:
Lets say we hypothetically blow the reason of the season and win the lotto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Yeah well Connor Bedard isn't going to wing, And you would have the most expensive top 3 Cs in the league.</div></div>
I would say he's doing quite well right now at wing so you never know.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 déc. 2022 à 12 h 40
Sujet:
I meanmaybe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>falsepretenses</b></div><div>No trolling. The fact is, Bratt’s camp is looking for in excess of $8 million. And I’m not confident the Devils should or will meet that demand. I believe his long-term extension ask will be 7 x $8.425M (roughly). And I think Meier at 8 x $7.5 or at exactly $8M is better value.</div></div>
There is absolutely 0% chance we move Bratt <strong>AND </strong>a 1st for Meier.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 août 2022 à 23 h 13
Sujet:
Not in Kansas Anymore
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>It's pretty obvious NJ isn't gonna re-sign Severson now. The Canucks aren't gonna give up a top 6 winger with control for a pending UFA</div></div>
So then what about a guaranteed sign and trade? I don't necessarily think we need Garland anymore but I think that's relatively fair? If anything about Canucks would have to add a tiny bit.
Forum:
NHL Signings
5 août 2022 à 23 h 12
Sujet:
New Jersey Devils signed Jonas Siegenthaler (5 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>Rebuilding is being content with losing.</div></div>
Losing is product of a rebuild. I don't agree that anyone is content with it, but they have to accept it. Acceptance and being content are very different in the scenario.
Forum:
NHL Signings
4 août 2022 à 23 h 12
Sujet:
New Jersey Devils signed Jonas Siegenthaler (5 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div><strong>I've never said you don't have to draft well. All you did was list players that were drafted by their team</strong>. Plus, three of the five teams you listed also have only one cup "in the last 30 years." The Bruins have been to three cups in the past 11 years. If you want to diss them for not winning a second one, that's fine but they've been there and have been a model for other teams in the league to build. Look at the Bruins drafted talent: Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, McAvoy, Swayman, Carlo, Grzelcyk, Krejci, DeBrusk. None of those picks were made with a rebuilding team.</div></div>
I'm not saying every organization does it correctly. We clearly have seen teams fail like Buffalo as you mentioned, but the reasoning behind those failures isn't because rebuilding doesn't work. It is because the front office and scouting department's failed, whether it's not properly developing their prospects, not bringing in the right complementary pieces, making bad trades, or not drafting the right talent.
It's ignorant to say "rebuilding isn't a winning formula" because history clearly shows that statement is simply untrue. It's obviously not a fool proof plan, but it works. Also, I'm not saying it's the only way to form a strong team, such as you've seen with the Bruins. I mean, 5 of the 9 players you listed were drafted outside of the 1st round. That's credited to good scouting, smart development, and honestly a little bit of luck. The key difference is that you were't low in the standings when those players were drafted. That right there is 2 pieces of how to do a successful rebuild. You might not have been tanking, but in reality how the Bruins built their core isn't that far off from what rebuilding is.
With rebuilding, it's not about the formula. It's about those who are trying to solve it. Some win, some fail. Just because some people in the world can't solve a math problem, doesn't mean the formula's wrong. Between the teams I list above, at one point or another, were the bottom feeders of the NHL. They all sucked, drafted, developed, and now they are all champions who's cores were built through the draft.
Forum:
NHL Signings
31 juill. 2022 à 22 h 16
Sujet:
New Jersey Devils signed Jonas Siegenthaler (5 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>The Bruins don't rebuild because it's not a winning formula. <strong>Ask Buffalo how permarebuild is going for them</strong>. As for Jersey, I've been hearing they're on the rise for at least 5 years now. Nothing good has come of it.</div></div>
Yes choose the one failed experiment to try and prove a point while completely ignoring the ones that were successful. The point of a rebuild is scout, draft, and develop your core to move forward with. Then you fill in the holes with free agent signings, or trades using the expendable assets you've acquired over the course of your rebuild. The last 5 different Cup winner's cores were largely built through the draft, so idk how tf you can confidently say it's not a winning formula.
Colorado: MacKinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Makar, Newhook, Byram
Tampa: Stamkos, Kucherov, Point, Killorn, Hedman, Palat, Vasilevsky, Colton, Foote, CIrelli
St Louis: Tarasenko, Perron (returned), Pietrangelo, Schwartz, Dunn, Thomas, Parayko, Steen, Barbashev, Binnington.
Washington: Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Carlson, Wilson, Orlov, Vrana, Burakovsky, Holtby, Grubauer
Pittsburgh: Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Guentzel, Fleury, Murray, J Staal and Orpik (2009).
But hey, I guess you would know about Boston more than I do. Have fun continuing to do this little purgatory thing you got going where you don't fail but yet are never seen as a true contender. Your one single championship in the last 30 years really appreciates it. Can't wait to see what you think when your core of Marchand, Bergeron, Krejci, and Pastrnak are all gone in the next couple of years and you try to build a team through your non-existant prospect pool.
Forum:
NHL Signings
31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 28
Sujet:
New Jersey Devils signed Jonas Siegenthaler (5 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>Lmao did my comment hurt your feelings? Shouldn't NJ continue to sell pieces like this so they can keep "rebuilding"?</div></div>
Bold statement coming from a fan who's team will probably be rebuilding within the next 3-4 years while NJ is on the rise.
Tell me, how are those Pastrnak contract negotiations going?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 26
Sujet:
Building a Long term Contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Meeqs</b></div><div>There aren't many wingers with size out there. Plus who cares what fans think, thats irrelevant. All that matters is the thought process behind the move. Could do a player like Poolparty or Crouse if you think he's more than a 4th liner but especially given the low cost of acquisition and the long term commitment to an aging Palat I don't see how you could be THAT upset by it</div></div>
The key difference though is that Palat at least is a top 6 winger and earned the contact he got from NJ. Is the term a little long? Sure. But Anderson is an overpaid bottom 6 who is on a horrific contract that everyone and their mother knew was bad the second he signed it. Good for him to getting the bag, but any logical front office wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.
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