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Armchair-GM
29 août 2020 à 16 h 24
Sujet:
MTL-Free agent salaries projection
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Tatar and Petry both said that Tatar said would love to stay in Montreal as it reminds him of his hometown even if it means taking a bit of a discount so look for him to take between 5-5.5 on a 5 year deal. Petry said him and his family love the city and that family needs will out weigh money on his next deal so maybe hi resigns for 5.5 x 5 as well. Gallagher gets 6-7 for 8 years. Danault at more than 5.5 would result in my trading him. Same goes for Armia at more than 3.5 and Lehkonen at more than 3. Domi I see between 4.5 for 3 years and 5.5. For 6 years. Kotkaniemi likely Gets 3.5-4 x 5 years. You also missed Juulsen who like gets a 2 year QO of 880k. Depending on how Suzuki does this year he could be between 5 and 6 for 5 years.</div></div>
Tatar's last contract was 5.3$ so I think he'll want a good raise even though he likes MTL.
You underestimate Petry's value on the team and on the market. He's our best DEF and he can play on a first pair of DEF.
If Gallagher asks 7$X8 it's bye bye
I don't see a future for Juulsen. He hasn't not prove anything and is much injured.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 août 2020 à 16 h 12
Sujet:
MTL-Free agent salaries projection
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsRafiki</b></div><div>The numbers aren't crazy but the lengths are, especially when you consider that the NHL will likely have another full season of no fans in stadiums. One has to figure that's at least $100M less in revenues per team when you factor in ticket, food&bev, parking, merch, etc. So....
Tatar for 6 @ $5.9M? Choose either term or $$$. He won't get both. He'll be nearly 31 when he signs this contract. No GM is going to bind their chequebook for this long.
Danault for 5 years at $5.2M is a little light, but not as much as the critics above would suggest. My guess is that you'd be better off giving him 7-8 years at this rate or a bit less. Guaranteed money is always nice and he will remain a quality player for another 7-10 years.
Gallagher 7 years at $5.8M would be generous and paying him for past accomplishments. I suspect he knows he'll be wearing down in 3-4 years and won't be able to justify this kind of salary when he's 33+, so he'd either take a short deal now for lots of money and gamble on there being a next contract, or would take a longer, lower-cost contract that would also allow him to continue to bask in the love of Montreal fans. He knows that happens to the Gomezs of the world when they disappoint in Montreal.
Petry for 5 at $6.5M is probably a bit light. More likely it's a $7M+ for 3 or 4.
Armia for 3 @ $3M? Sure, but why not lock him in for longer? His skills are not the kind that crater quickly and he'll be a solid third liner for another 6 years or so.</div></div>
I agree, it could also be 6$X4 for Tatar and 7$X4 for Petry.
If I'm the Habs, I don't want to sign Danalt for 7-8 years because I have Suzuki and KK who will take his place in a few years. So when KK will have to renegotiate, Danault will leave.
Gallagher is the heart of this team and if he becomes UFA he will be in very high demand. Also, you have to pay him for his last underpaid years.
Armia is not consistent enough to have a 6 year contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 août 2020 à 15 h 53
Sujet:
MTL-Free agent salaries projection
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Danault would be a 1C on a lot of teams and he’s a high end 2C on a contender. Hayes got 7 mill last summer and Nelson signed for 6 mill. Those are his comparables.</div></div>
I agree to disagree. Hayes and Nelson are big center who score 25 goals. I think the money difference is there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 août 2020 à 15 h 43
Sujet:
MTL-Free agent salaries projection
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Suzuki_Cup</b></div><div>We can't afford to have Byron, Lehkonen and Armia who all play defensive roles and cost 9,2mil
Edit : I would keep only one of them and, and Ylonen could fill that role soon.</div></div>
I agree my post is on future contracts and not trades. Some players will have to leave or not to sign.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 août 2020 à 15 h 41
Sujet:
MTL-Free agent salaries projection
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Suzuki_Cup</b></div><div>Armia is fair, maybe a little too much
Tatar isn't enough, maybe closer to 6,5
Danault will get probably 7 on free agency, and won't resign if he's our 3rd center (which will most likely happen)
For Gallagher, maybe a little more would have to be add
Petry is too much</div></div>
My comparable contracts are :
Danault : Backlund 5,35
Gallagher : Callahan 5,8
Petry : Yandle 6,35
Tatar : Atkinson 5,85
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 août 2020 à 15 h 37
Sujet:
MTL-Free agent salaries projection
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Danault will get 6 mill</div></div>
I think its more like 5-5,5 for a second center. The comparable contract is Backlund at 5,35.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 août 2020 à 1 h 3
Sujet:
MTL-Mantha-Brodin-Puljujarvi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>1st round pick according to one of the best GM's of all time. I am just a capfriendly nerd.</div></div>
I don't think you are going to receive the same as the 2015 Griffin Reinhart trade like a 1st and 2nd pick. It's gonna be more like Adam fox trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 août 2020 à 0 h 53
Sujet:
MTL-Mantha-Brodin-Puljujarvi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>Mantha is a 40 goal, point per game threat if he can stay healthy and Detroit likes him. Domi is a 50 point guy who had one good year and he’s in the doghouse in Montreal.</div></div>
Relax be realistic. Mantha has never scored more than 25 goals in is career but Domi has already scored 28 goals in 2018-2019. Maybe max 35 in is prime but never 40.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 août 2020 à 0 h 37
Sujet:
MTL-Mantha-Brodin-Puljujarvi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>You will not be acquiring the Oilers Finn for that return. You can have AA for that.</div></div>
So what is the value for this exiled player who hasn't proven anything yet ? You will never get a 1st pick for him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 août 2020 à 0 h 35
Sujet:
MTL-Mantha-Brodin-Puljujarvi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Guerin would need to be fired immediately if he took that</div></div>
I was inspired by Faulk's trade. But it is the trade that I am least sure because MIN can get a 1st pick for him. I think Kulak is very underrated.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 août 2020 à 0 h 28
Sujet:
MTL-Mantha-Brodin-Puljujarvi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>Detroit and Ottawa fans have said no literally dozens of times to these trades. Ottawa isn’t giving picks for an old, overpaid bottom sixer. Detroit isn’t trading Mantha, and specifically not for Domi+Mete+pick (you didn’t even include the pick)</div></div>
Mantha and Domi are 60 pts players. Did Mantha accomplish more than Domi or did I miss something ?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 août 2020 à 13 h 34
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan89</b></div><div>Nylander is 6.75 million. Domi will likely be 5+ million. I’d rather pay more to get a Nylander which is needed than pay that package to get a Domi which isn’t.</div></div>
So are you happy with Kapanen or you will prefer my Domi trade ?
Nylander is 6.96$ by the way ;)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 août 2020 à 0 h 13
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan89</b></div><div>Yeah but Pittsburgh’s need is a top 6 right handed RW that can play the left wall on the PP. we haven’t replaced Kessel there and our PP went to crap when Kessel left because of it. I’d rather look at going after a William Nylander if he’s available, or an ADB. I think the pens would be willing to trade 15 overall and overpay for a guy like those players.</div></div>
Again i agree Nylander will be better but its not the same trade value and salary.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 août 2020 à 0 h 3
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>You are asking for 2 spare parts from wings, worst case he's bowey, best case he's better. I like his upside and on wings he might get playing time and produce more</div></div>
Maybe he will be good at 25 but I have a lot of doubt about him. In MTL, he's the last in the LD hierarchy. I think one of Norlinder, Struble or Harris will be better, so i don't see his utility.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 août 2020 à 23 h 53
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan89</b></div><div>Coleman has a better cap hit, Domi will get 5+. Coleman was traded at the deadline where cup contenders will overpay to put them over. Domi would be off-season and the pens don’t need Domi as they already have Guentzel, Zucker, and McCann as top 6 LW and that’s a lot to pay for a guy making 5+ million to play 3C (and kind of a waste given Domi’s skill). The 1st given up for Coleman was a late pick, this is 15 in a deep draft. Bjugstad isn’t that bad of a cap dump. He is still useful when healthy. When not healthy, then he goes on LTIR and you get cap relief.</div></div>
I understand your good points on LW and your concerns about Domi's salary. But last year Domi has the double pts of Coleman. PIT is still a contender for the cup, right ? Maybe it's not a perfect fit for PIT but i can see Domi play 3rd center and on the PP at 5 M$.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 août 2020 à 23 h 0
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KamloopsSens</b></div><div>Byron from Ottawa and his leadership quality are your selling points. 31 year old winger on 3.4 mil cap hit with three years remaining. No thanks.</div></div>
I think Byron has the same value as the Dzingel trade. So minimum two 2nd pick.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 août 2020 à 22 h 55
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>I'm with my fellow wings fans, we accept</div></div>
I'm really curious, you are several people to tell me about Mete. That's why I did a survey to find out its value. But what do you like so much about 5'9 def who made max 13 pts in the NHL? He's not offensive and he's not defensive so ...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 août 2020 à 22 h 40
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steinthekid</b></div><div>Its a pass on the Penguins trade but its not a hard pass. Remove our first this year and your third and it would be very hard to say no. Bjugstads contract only has 1 year left at 4.1 Mil, Domi isnt worth Poulin our first and a 1 year Bjugstad dump.</div></div>
If Coleman worth a 1st pick + Foote then why not Domi who has done 72 pts last year ? Bjustad is for the cap issue and for a big 4th center.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 août 2020 à 22 h 34
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>He doesn’t know what he’s doing lol trade Mete for nothing and trade Byron like he was a top6 winger on a good contract</div></div>
First of all, Byron is from OTT. His leadership can help young players. In 2018-2019, his projection was 45 pts. But, i agree we can remove Batherson if you want.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 août 2020 à 22 h 21
Sujet:
MTL-TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>redwingsfan04</b></div><div>Detroit accepts but that's probably a bad trade for Montreal.</div></div>
Mete has no future in MTL but he remains a young player. MTL needs more bottom line players like Erne and Bowey who have more experience and points in the NHL.
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