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Forum: Armchair-GM19 juill. 2019 à 10 h 9
Sujet: Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Csick123</b></div><div>Who are u again?</div></div>

Can we just stop thinking Mitch Marner should get similar money to Auston Matthews? This is getting beyond ridiculous. Ever since entering the league, no player has scored more even strength goals than Matthews, Marner is absolutely not in the same category in terms of individual ability.

William Nylander is a better individual player than Mitch Marner. So far in their careers, Nylander’s Corsi for is 54% whereas Marner’s is only 40%. In fact, each star forward on the Leafs found more success playing with Nylander than with Marner. Kadri has a .86 G/60 playing with Nylander and .85 playing with Marner. Van Riemsdyk has a 1.33 G/60 playing with Nylander and 1.18 with Marner. Tavares has a 6.27 G/60 playing with Nylander and 1.53 with Marner. Matthews has a 1.53 G/60 with Nylander and a 1.04 with Marner. Just stop for a moment and take a look at Marner’s possession metrics and advanced stats: <a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/nVdJHWP" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/gallery/nVdJHWP</a>
<a href="https://imgur.com/a/j04H3vO" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/a/j04H3vO</a> He literally gets carried by Tavares and is only effective when JT is holding his hand. Across the past 3 seasons at 5v5 in comparison to Marner, Nylander has a higher...
iCF60: 15.03 vs 14.44
iFF60: 11.33 vs 10.64
iSF60: 7.94 vs 7.37
ixG60: 0.78 vs 0.66
So literally the only A3Z metric that rates Marner higher than Nylander across the past 3 years is...nothing.

It is utterly mind-bottling that people think Marner is comparable to Nylander- one drives play at an elite level while the other just waits around for elite centres such as Kadri and Tavares to carry him. I don’t see Marner being anywhere near Nylander’s level. Marner has been sheltered and protected by elite play driving linemates whereas Nylander’s results encompass all manner of adversity and babcock lunacy.
Honestly Mitch Marner in reality is literally the same type of player as Conor Sheary, an average or below average player in terms of skill that relies on elite centres to carry them.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 juill. 2019 à 10 h 8
Sujet: Marner trade with isles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jester9881</b></div><div>Mr Chiarelli, as an Islander fan I feel safe accepting this trade on behalf of the Islanders.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevorchef</b></div><div>We have a winner folks! Worst trade proposal in the history of the site. Dubas making amends for JT leaving long island as a UFA whilst getting absolutely ass-raped in the process.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Price_is_the_goat</b></div><div>yeah weed is legal, but come on...</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>:laugh :laugh This can't be a serious offer? Boychuk meh, Ho Sang meh, Ladd no value what so ever. I wouldn't do Larkin for this crap. Let alone Marner.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>joshelkin</b></div><div>Dude what are you doing?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeygoalie53</b></div><div>As an Islanders fan, I say accept that deal before Dubas comes down off whatever he was smoking.

For the Leafs though, that trade would go down as one of, if not the worst trade in the history of the NHL. Dubas would be driven out of Canada and told never to return!</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Delete this.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>feds91stammer</b></div><div>One of the worst Marner trades I have seen. Congrats.</div></div>

I can’t believe how much you guys are overvaluing Marner. Honestly Mitch Marner in reality is literally the same type of player as Conor Sheary, an average or below average player in terms of skill that relies on elite centres to carry them. So to get anything in return for that 11 million dollar cap dump is exceptional.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juill. 2019 à 22 h 34
Sujet: ----
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Maj</b></div><div>I usually trade off Marner, just thought i would do something different.

Financially speaking, getting rid of marner would be a benefit to the leafs and also a good piece of meat to dangle for a decent trade of defence and offence players in return.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>Keep them both</div></div>

It just seriously baffles me that Jake Guentzel, a player who is far better than Mitch Marner settled for 5 years at 6 million AAV. This is a guy who’s won cups and proved himself as an elite player with countless world class performances in the playoffs. 25 career post season goals and 43 points. He should be getting 9-10 million dollars a year! Yet here we have Mitch Marner, the most overrated player in the league asking for 5 years at 10.5 million when he hasn’t done a thing to earn this money. The guy has scored just 5 career post season goals and 17 points. All he has proven is that he is an average player whenever he isn’t getting carried by an elite centreman in John Tavares. Talk about someone wanting to take less money to help his team win and another who goes way above his value.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juill. 2019 à 18 h 52
Sujet: Hes going to get paid
Can we just stop thinking Mitch Marner should get similar money to Auston Matthews? This is getting beyond ridiculous. Ever since entering the league, no player has scored more even strength goals than Matthews, Marner is absolutely not in the same category in terms of individual ability.

William Nylander is a better individual player than Mitch Marner. So far in their careers, Nylander’s Corsi for is 54% whereas Marner’s is only 40%. In fact, each star forward on the Leafs found more success playing with Nylander than with Marner. Kadri has a .86 G/60 playing with Nylander and .85 playing with Marner. Van Riemsdyk has a 1.33 G/60 playing with Nylander and 1.18 with Marner. Tavares has a 6.27 G/60 playing with Nylander and 1.53 with Marner. Matthews has a 1.53 G/60 with Nylander and a 1.04 with Marner. Just stop for a moment and take a look at Marner’s possession metrics and advanced stats: <a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/nVdJHWP" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/gallery/nVdJHWP</a>
<a href="https://imgur.com/a/j04H3vO" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/a/j04H3vO</a> He literally gets carried by Tavares and is only effective when JT is holding his hand. Across the past 3 seasons at 5v5 in comparison to Marner, Nylander has a higher...
iCF60: 15.03 vs 14.44
iFF60: 11.33 vs 10.64
iSF60: 7.94 vs 7.37
ixG60: 0.78 vs 0.66
So literally the only A3Z metric that rates Marner higher than Nylander across the past 3 years is...nothing.

It is utterly mind-bottling that people think Marner is comparable to Nylander- one drives play at an elite level while the other just waits around for elite centres such as Kadri and Tavares to carry him. I don’t see Marner being anywhere near Nylander’s level. Marner has been sheltered and protected by elite play driving linemates whereas Nylander’s results encompass all manner of adversity and babcock lunacy.
Honestly Mitch Marner in reality is literally the same type of player as Conor Sheary, an average or below average player in terms of skill that relies on elite centres to carry them.