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Forum: Armchair-GM30 déc. 2019 à 18 h 32

Sujet: Viktor Arvidsson Sean Couturier and Kaspari Kapanen to San Jose

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Great for you but you arent a GM.</div></div>

Literally none of us are; this is the "Armchair-GM" section of the site if you were somehow unaware.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 déc. 2019 à 10 h 58

Sujet: What I think will happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>grok</b></div><div>tor might have to move on ceci for almost nothing if the TDL market is active</div></div>

A 5th is essentially nothing O.o

Forum: Armchair-GM30 déc. 2019 à 10 h 1

Sujet: Philly trade with DAL and TOR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Agree, but Toronto needs physicality and team defense</div></div>

Sure, but why would they move a middle 6 winger who is one of their top PKers for a 3rd pairing LHD and two ECHLers? If they want a big bottom pairing guy it isn't going to cost Kapanen.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 21 h 16

Sujet: San Jose Lineup with Kreider and Kapanen Additions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MadLin27</b></div><div>I don't think it was reverse psychology... He just didn't want Leafs and Rangers fans to spaz out on him, something that happens frequently in AGM comment sections</div></div>

Well, I doubt saying that would help any more than telling your girlfriend to "calm down".

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 17 h 42

Sujet: Deadline Dealing

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>That's nice, but it's not really close. Georgiev alone is worth roughly a 1st rounder...

Petan has already cleared waivers this year, he doesn't really have any value.

So Bracco and a 3rd really doesn't do much.

But Bracco for Fast is an interesting trade.</div></div>

Late 1st, sure. Agreed, Petan has negligable value. Bracco's value is about a pick of where was drafted. Late 2nd + 3rd isn't too far off, but I agree that it likely gets declined. I think the best offer you get from the Leafs is 2nd + Bracco. I don't see the leafs moving Bracco for Fast as they'll want to move him in a larger deal.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 17 h 39

Sujet: Kreider to SJ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CheechYou</b></div><div>I think so too, though Ranger fans will be saying it's an underpayment. They're looking for a return just short of what Hall hauled... a lot of them want a first included apparently, which I think is crazy, but hey, you never know...</div></div>

They're looking for like half of the Hall trade, not the Hall trade. As a neutral fan, I think the offer is pretty fair overall.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 17 h 36

Sujet: San Jose Lineup with Kreider and Kapanen Additions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CheechYou</b></div><div>If you don't like the trades Ranger and Leaf fans, carry on... just posting ideas that I think are workable. I respect your decision to disagree.</div></div>

Reverse psychology to get people to engage, I dislike that.

As for the trades, I think the Rangers would have to be high on Chmelevski to accept that, otherwise I imagine someone ponies up a 1st. Toronto declines; the main piece is a rental LHD, Melker is a 12th/13th forward making $2M, and True is okay but ultimately a throw in. I imagine Toronto brings up Sandin before moving Kapanen for a rental.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 16 h 57

Sujet: Deadline Dealing

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Swap Petan with Kapanen and you're closer to the ballpark.</div></div>

I'd counter with just dropping Fast from the original proposal.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 11 h 32

Sujet: Big Trade deadline moves

I don't see Georgiev stealing the starter job right out of the gate from Andersson so I'd take that. Worst case for Andersson is that they become a tandom and split 40-40 and no goalie is going 30-10-0

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 11 h 29

Sujet: Ducks future - bright

With Soup out for a couple of months adding a LWer like Ritchie might not be a bad idea depending on the price.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 11 h 26

Sujet: Deadline Dealing

Leafs accept in a heartbeat.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 déc. 2019 à 21 h 12

Sujet: selling deadline mil tor pit wag

Why is Toronto trading Ceci for a worse defenseman O.o

Forum: Armchair-GM27 déc. 2019 à 15 h 37

Sujet: Leafsters

I nearly spit out my coffee.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals27 déc. 2019 à 14 h 59

Sujet: What up

Value seems pretty close all around, assuming Toronto is interested in taking a chance on Subban.

Forum: Armchair-GM27 déc. 2019 à 14 h 29

Sujet: TDL or early Feb

Kreider is like the 3rd or 4th guy we should be looking to realistically trade for from the NYR

Forum: Armchair-GM27 déc. 2019 à 12 h 47

Sujet: Realization

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>grok</b></div><div>hell yeah seabrook and ceci. negative-seven WAR of defensemen for 11 million dollars on the same team. you simply love to see it.</div></div>

Over the last 2.5 seasons Brooks is at -2.7 WAR and Ceci's at -0.4 WAR. I think you're overreacting. <a href="https://evolving-hockey.com/?_inputs_&gar_sk_toi_pp=%220%22&gar_sk_span=%22Regular%22&gar_sk_col=%22Basic%22&dir=%22GAR%20Skater%20Tables%22&gar_sk_pos=%22All%22&gar_sk_toi_all=%2250%22&gar_sk_season=%5B%2220192020%22%2C%2220182019%22%2C%2220172018%22%5D&gar_sk_group=%22Team%2C%20Season%22&gar_sk_team=%22All%22&gar_sk_base=%22GAR%22&gar_sk_toi_ev=%220%22&gar_sk_players=%5B%22Cody%20Ceci%22%2C%22Brent%20Seabrook%22%5D&gar_sk_toi_sh=%220%22&gar_sk_type=%22Totals%22" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Source</a>

Forum: Armchair-GM27 déc. 2019 à 9 h 21

Sujet: Thoughts CHI-TOR amp BUF TOR

That Chicago trade is the rare lose-lose

Forum: Armchair-GM26 déc. 2019 à 19 h 33

Sujet: Trades with Toronto and Chicago

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Gee, the Leafs take that trade. Two NHLers for one. Plus Santini and the pick for Bracco seems to be Leaf win too.</div></div>

Two NHLers isn't inherently better than one. Not that I don't consider Watson + Suros for Johnsson.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 déc. 2019 à 16 h 53

Sujet: Kappy trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kings989</b></div><div>Don’t think Roy is part of that trade. Campbell for Kap could be a thing. Campbell was great last year. This year him and Quick struggled to start but a lot of that was due to the team transitioning from a very D first system to a more offensive style, kings were running all over out of position, hanging the goaltenders out to dry. they have been much better lately. Think Campbell would be a great backup on a good team. I don’t think the kings have any need for Ceci, they are loaded with D that are as good if not better then Ceci and much cheaper. And Ceci is ufa.</div></div>

From the leafs end there is no such thing as Campbell for Kapanen.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 déc. 2019 à 11 h 57

Sujet: Kappy trade

Who is Matt Roy?

Forum: Armchair-GM26 déc. 2019 à 6 h 57

Sujet: Carolina Fans

Hawks should just re-sign Lehner. They aren't going to get top prospects like Liljegren or Bean, and I doubt you'd get an unconditional 1st either.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 déc. 2019 à 5 h 58

Sujet: Trouba to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Correct and i doubt he would care</div></div>

Doctors earn a lot but I am pretty sure he and fiance would care about 60m

Forum: Armchair-GM26 déc. 2019 à 5 h 56

Sujet: Leafs Improve Goaltending Depth

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_fan13</b></div><div>No. Kapanen Joseph and 4th</div></div>

Lehner is better than a backup but we can't afford to pay that kind of price for a rental.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals25 déc. 2019 à 22 h 48

Sujet: Leafs D and Backup G

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div>Ceci >>> Subban this season .... LMAO.</div></div>

If there is a team that could rehab Subban's skating issues, its the Leafs.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 déc. 2019 à 17 h 19

Sujet: Trade with Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sedin33</b></div><div>Sandin is a good prospect. But last time I looked, Toronto still needed help at RHD and grit to make it past the first round. Try to get those with your cap space. Btw, Stecher is more than a bottom pair dman.</div></div>

You don't trade a prospect with legitimate top pairing upside for "grit" or a guy who is at best a #4 RHD. I'd rather lose in the playoffs and lose Barrie and Muzzin for nothing than trade away Sandin in this absolute abysmal trade.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_fan13</b></div><div>Sandin can play on the right side. Why are we trading our top prospect for 2 med level players. We also have lily in the minors and we have assest to trades that can gte us better players. Deal is a no go.</div></div>

All defenseman "can" play the right side, but realisticially he just doesn't. The Marlies have always been stocked with solid RHD guys.

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