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Sujet: Could this happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>like 1/2 the 1st round in his draft year was defensemen.
Further more a lot of guys in that draft class have yet to really get playing time. Like Bernard-Docker.
So the whole points thing means nothing to me. Hell there are guys above him who have way more games like Brady T. or Svechnikov.
But no matter how you put it, it's not changing the fact that in even strength/5v5 play the guy has 3 goals and 9 freaking points.
I don't care what kind of mental gymnastics you go through to justify what ever it is you are thinking. 3 goals, 9 points.
Last year it was 3 goals 13 points. in roughly the same amount o games.

Lets be clear about it. There is a problem with the play. That is not acceptable production for a 22 year old 6OA.</div></div>

Last season the guy was getting 1st line minutes pretty much every game except the 11 that Vrana played.
This season because of Raymond, Bertuzzi, Fabbri and even Namestnikov he is being forced into a bottom 6 role.
And like Larkin last season, he's working on his 2-way game more and more to the point where he is usually the best part of those bottom 6 lines.
Plus, doesn't that point production with less ice-time not show some improvement in his offensive game?
Forum: Armchair-GM16 févr. 2022 à 7 h 17
Sujet: Could this happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>LOL for what?

I wouldn't even do this trade if I was PIT.
You can say what ever you want but one of the reasons DET hasn't turned it around is players like Zadina haven't done anything. 3 years of an ELC and no results.
At some point it's not everyone else. You are drafted 6OA, You are suppose to be the "talent" on the team to turn it around.
It's not like they rushed his development either. He didn't come in at 18. He developed till he was 21.

I think POJ returns at least a 1st in value. Probably with a decent prospect at this point. PIT took their time developing him. He needed that too.
But at least he's a decent defense man. He'll be no less than a 3rd pairing on a steal contract for a team, most likely end up a 2LD somewhere.
Zadina right now, looks like a 3rd to 4th liner. He has not played up to his draft grade, and at some point you frankly, aren't worth your draft grade.
He best qualifies at this point as a "Bust"</div></div>

Well I do agree that he should be producing more points as he was drafted to be an elite sniper, calling him a "bust" is just not it.
Even if his point production hasn't been the best he still has the 8th most points in his draft class.
He's been playing great this season, looks much improved over prior years.
The guy is one of the unluckiest players in the NHL, always gets chances but either a big save or deflected shot, etc.

I don't watch the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins so I can't give you a well-detailed report of the guy, but if you say a guy with only 20 NHL games under his belt at the age of 22 is more valuable than our guy, I won't argue.
But the moment you start going after Zadina purely based on points and draft position that's just foolish.
But it's safe to say that you guys wouldn't want to pay what we'd have wanted, so this is a no deal?