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Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. 2023 à 11 h 16

Sujet: EK65

$23M in retention, didn't TO pay a first for $6M a while back. Caps going up, so there is inflation, Ek isn't worth 11.5M at age 32 with injury risk, and maybe SJS are generous to get a deal done but that retention alone still costs a ton.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 janv. 2023 à 12 h 10

Sujet: Saskatchewan Natives

Lol, imagine a Briar style tourney for hockey, that would be awesome!

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 21 h 43

Sujet: Canucks Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>That’s the thing that is going to be hard. It would not be easy to move Grubauer. Maybe a goalie swap.. Holl is meh really. He’s a bottom pair defence man in my opinion, that should get nowhere near 4M. That’s just my opinion though.</div></div>

I think it's impossible to move them, have to ride it out. Hopefully their game comes around with the rest of the team. Grubuer looked decent his last game. Better to focus on D and then F. Be opportunist in G if something viable comes up otherwise get the best goalie prospects you can in the system and move on.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 19 h 30

Sujet: Canucks Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>It's crazy to think Seattle or any team gives up so much in the very very long shot sign and trade. Are you calling a Horvat a 1C? He hasn't been in on the middling Vancouver team.

Gee, Kuzmenko gets more than 3.5m from lots of team. I'm a Holl supporter but no way he gets a four year term and 4.6m. I think he resigns with the Leafs or signs with his native Minnesota replacing Dumba.</div></div>

What is long shot about sign and trade, you don't trade unless Horvat signs a contract you're happy with. That is my assumption.

Kuzmenko might get more elsewhere but will he get the same top6 opportunity on a team he likes and selected in the first place.

Horvat could be a 1C on the Kraken and other teams. I would take him over Pierre Luke Dubois for example.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 19 h 24

Sujet: Canucks Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tasieboy</b></div><div>Holl isn't a bad dman but he's just not worth 4.6 for 4 years and he's 30 he's not getting younger. Plus Bear is just as good and would re sign for much less and is younger.</div></div>

Vancouver needs to improve their D. I would target a big, reasonably fast D who can defend and move the puck. Holl is probably the best guy they can get. Is he worth 4.6Mx4, no but I'm willing to overpay to get him. Bear is a decent all round defenseman but he's smaller, not fast, has some inconsistency. On a good team Bear is a 6/7 like he was in Carolina. Holl can be top4 on a good team as he is now.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 15 h 34

Sujet: Canucks Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Colts_927</b></div><div>Signs holl to 4.6 lol he's a real jim benning fan</div></div>

What's wrong with Holl, he's playing top 4d on Toronto and doing well. Big, mobile, decent defender. Canucks have to pay a premium as non-contenders and also have to out bid Toronto.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 15 h 7

Sujet: Canucks Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>If Horvat would sign at $7m x 5, the Canucks would have already signed him.</div></div>

Maybe he wants a change of scenery.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 15 h 5

Sujet: Canucks Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>I personally wouldn’t trade a good prospect, and futures for Horvat if I am Seattle. It’s not their time to go all in.. at least I don’t think so. They still have some holes, but guys like Bjorkstrand, and Beniers are also filling some. They could benefit from having a number one defender, but most importantly, a good starting goalie. That’s what I would try and get if I am Seattle.

Not a fan of the Holl signing too!</div></div>

What do they do with Grubuer and Dreidger? What's wrong with Holl, he's a decent all round top4 d.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 15 h 3

Sujet: Canucks Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>Seattle doesn't even consider that offer.</div></div>

They do if Horvat signs for a reasonable contract, say 7mx5. Seattle is balanced but lacks high end skill. 1C are not easy to come by, ask Columbus. Horvat is not elite but he's in the range and an upgrade for Seattle.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. 2023 à 15 h 50

Sujet: Horvat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>highly highly doubt this is the highest bid</div></div>

Depends on whether another team can get Horvat to sign. A playoff rental is not worth the huge haul Canucks fans want to see. Seattle could raise their offer if it's close.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 28

Sujet: Does this idea work for both sides

Don't know enough about Provorov but that's a lot to give up. Broberg is looking better every game right now. Doubt the Oil do something like this.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 12

Sujet: Horvat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>there's gray area here. the canucks want a first and a good prospect for him, and won't be interested in retaining or taking salary back unless they can get that.</div></div>

Canucks can't afford Horvat. It's a market, if this is the highest bid, they'll take it.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 janv. 2023 à 20 h 1

Sujet: TampaBayLightning 1

Oil not the right team for a random cap dump and I bet the cost may be a fourth fwiw.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 janv. 2023 à 16 h 56

Sujet: NEXT YEAR if can squeeze a bit more cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>myboykole</b></div><div>It's his defense that sucks</div></div>

Barrie has been decent on defense this year, not a new player or anything but his fancies are decent.
https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20222023&playerid=8475197&sit=5v5&stype=2

Forum: Armchair-GM4 janv. 2023 à 18 h 43

Sujet: Cheap D Upgrade 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SK101</b></div><div>It’s an overpay for Gavrikov (probably just need a first and maybe a smaller piece) but that’s not even close for chychrun. Would need to add another first and second to get chychrun</div></div>

Oilers need the cap in the above plan. Kulak and Jesse have some value, maybe a bit of an overpay and CBJ sends a lower pick back.

The rumored ask for Chychrun to the oil is 2 1sts and Broberg. I would consider it with a different prospect maybe Holloway or Borgeaux, with Kulak and some retention.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 déc. 2022 à 9 h 50

Sujet: Ducks blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vols94</b></div><div>Sure buy Verbeek is not stupid and would want more then a cap dump, a bust, a marginal former 1st rounder</div></div>

You are correct, I have reconsidered the retention is a bridge too far, Verbeek wouldn't do it. However you do these players a disservice with these descriptions. Foegele and Jesse are a cap dump and bust but they are not marginal players both are above replacement level and JP still has some chance to be more. But Broberg is significant value and that first is looking more like a mid rounder. Anyway just saying could be a little friendlier is all.

Seems like Holland's real target was Klingberg and maybe that's possible, no long term retention required.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 déc. 2022 à 12 h 51

Sujet: Ducks blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>-Fowler doesn't waive to go to Edmonton.
-Ducks aren't retaining for 4 years.
-He's probably not what you need anyway.</div></div>

You never know maybe Cam would rather try for a championship than be part of a rebuild. 4 years is a lot but one year is almost gone and the return is pretty big. Especially if Broberg becomes a top pair d, those are hard to come by.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 déc. 2022 à 12 h 29

Sujet: Oil 23 TDL - Toews

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>A 1st for a rental 3C who will be 35 in the spring and scoring 35-40 points a season? That's a little steep if you ask me.</div></div>

We just saw Oil unable to lock down a win last night against the blue and the coach over playing his stars and them being gassed. Toews is still an excellent center defensively, great at faceoffs, still some offense, great leadership. He fits many of the holes the oil have. If they had him, last night probably ends differently.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 déc. 2022 à 12 h 24

Sujet: Oil 23 TDL - Toews

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>Poolparty is looking like a non-tender candidate, no shot any team, especially the last place Ducks pay a 2nd for him

They couldnt even get that at the draft for him</div></div>

This is Boston's second, pretty much a high third. The Oil got a third for Yakupov from St. Louis! JP's scoring has fallen off but his defensive game is strong. If anyone wants to take a flyer, the probability is probably higher than a third and JP is ready to go now.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 déc. 2022 à 6 h 20

Sujet: Take a flyer on poolparty

Any chance Tomasino could be part of the JP deal?

Forum: Armchair-GM2 sept. 2022 à 8 h 26

Sujet: Mayfield and 23 man cap compiant roster

Odd team for a guy named BouchBomb. We need money to sign Bouchard next year. The obvious play is trade Barrie next year and use a RD rookie for 3RD. What's the plan to get cap space with this roster.

Forum: NHL Signings22 août 2022 à 21 h 3

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Noah Dobson (3 Years / $4,000,000 AAV)

Not a bad contract but it's inline with the <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/active/2023/caphit/all/defense?stats-season=2022&limits=gp-60-90,toi-18-20">going rate</a> (18-20 min TOI/game) for a second line D and he's only played one season averaging 18min/game. Haven't followed Dobson closely, is he really in line with Sergachev or McAvoy?

Forum: Armchair-GM14 août 2022 à 9 h 56

Sujet: 2024 the Kraken rises

Solid team, especially like the backend moves. Seattle is weak on RD and Klinberg would help a lot. Would go longer on Dunn if possible 6 x 7 maybe.

The Fantalini thing seems out of left field not sure what that's about.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 juill. 2022 à 6 h 40

Sujet: Phill The Thrill

Seattle has decent RW depth, doubt they would pay much for JP.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 juill. 2022 à 6 h 35

Sujet: Oilers all in

Nice team, what about next year when Weager and Bouch get paid. Trading Foegele isn't covering that. In fact overages for Bouchard and Holloway probably take up most of it. We're going to need those cheap dmen, pass on Chychrun, that's a play when the tank is empty.

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