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Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 12 h 26

Sujet: The RHD Brad should persue

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>No interest whatsoever in Abruzzese or Jones, even if they were on waivers, let alone for our best defensive defender.</div></div>

Curious what you think is fair value?

Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 12 h 21

Sujet: The RHD Brad should persue

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hckeydude123</b></div><div>Roy is not for sale. Only way a team gets Roy from the Kings is if they massively over pay for him. A late first a top 6 AHLer with virtually no NHL experience and a washed goaltender is not enough even if he was for sale.</div></div>

You’re spending over 20 mil on your defence with RHD prospects ready to take over in Spence & Clarke, Doughty is your Top RHD, All signs point to Roy being available & I think if the Leafs were to peruse anyone it would be him whether as a deadline deal or a free agent

What would you consider a fair deal for him

Forum: Armchair-GM31 janv. à 9 h 47

Sujet: Kakko

12 other teams beat that

Forum: Armchair-GM31 janv. à 1 h 4

Sujet: Curious what the Cost is

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Why do Leaf fans have such fascination with bottom enders on non playoff team? Gee with your lineup the Leafs Giordano and Timmins are gone via waivers and having just six NHL Dmen.
Hardly a wise way to build a roster.</div></div>

Gio is hardly playable & Timmins is a grenade machine, Kuraly is a huge upgrade to the 3rd line & Peeke is just a RHD with upside

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 21 h 55

Sujet: What would it cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>boltsfan71</b></div><div>a first plus to start it</div></div>

Ok & where does it end?

Leafs get 2 guys who know how to win, with term who upgrade the team, i’ll pay the price

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 21 h 55

Sujet: Curious what the Cost is

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>Kuraly is honestly a TDL 2025 move in all likelihood, he's a local kid who wears the "A" and fills a need. No incentive to move him for what would likely be a mid-round pick (3rd or 4th) unless he's going to be a UFA who's walking.

Peeke, you can have. Literally just take him. I'll staple up to a 5th-rounder to his a** and drive him to the airport myself (which is saying something considering I don't live in Ohio) to see him gone. That, conveniently, immediately clears up the Jiricek mess in one fell swoop.</div></div>

Do you hate him enough to retain 50%?

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 21 h 50

Sujet: Curious what the Cost is

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HShockey</b></div><div>Late picks, nothing more than a 3rd and 6th or something like</div></div>

I’d do that in a heartbeat for Kuraly

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 21 h 49

Sujet: What would it cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>You don't see the Leafs giving away a first-round pick to Seattle?</div></div>

No i’m saying The 1st + Timmins but instead of Robby it’s Lisowsky & a 4th or 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 21 h 48

Sujet: What would it cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>In return, Seattle would get Toronto's first-round pick, Nicholas Robertson, and Connor Timmins.</div></div>

Hmm, could it be someone else besides Robby, maybe Lisowsky (Robby in the making) plus a 3rd in 2025

Still it’s worth considering

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 13 h 58

Sujet: Unrealistic Josi trade

Deal

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 13 h 58

Sujet: Deadline moves

Umm ok

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 13 h 57

Sujet: Its time to sell

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>I don’t think Toronto should move him, but I’d be very happy for the caps to scoop him up if they decide to. I’m not huge on Voit personally, but a third rounder and a late pick for TVR would be a fine return.</div></div>

Genuinely unfortunate for Voit, he’d be lighting up the A just had to get injured

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 11 h 30

Sujet: Its time to sell

Not giving up our only productive bottom 6er for TVR, will do the pick swap tho plus Voit

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 11 h 21

Sujet: Kalyiev wants a change of scenery

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Justafan79</b></div><div>Princess Luc Dubios requested a trade and Winnipeg did really well.</div></div>

a 2C over a 4th LD

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 11 h 20

Sujet: Genuine feedback wanted submit your proposals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Turkish_Canuck</b></div><div>Interesting, I actually don't think Kuzmenko brings in close to a 1st+.</div></div>

I think his last season gives a-lot of promise to most contenders which will make then pony up a 1st + imo

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 10 h 42

Sujet: Rumor

Rumour from who RangersFan6969?

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 10 h 41

Sujet: Genuine feedback wanted submit your proposals

1. A 1st +A Prospect & another high pick or good roster player

2. 1st + Roster-player or 1st + B prospect

3. 2nd + B prospect

4. N/A but with 50% retention a 4th or 3rd at best

5. 4th rounder but desperation & teams with pick surplus could cause a late 3rd (basically same thing i think for Jones)

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 48

Sujet: Fair

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Why?</div></div>

Provorov is ridiculously overrated & isn’t a good defensemen, he had 1 good season in Philly 2 years ago so using nearly 5 mil on him is an absolute waste of cap space especially in UFA pool stacked with D-men, proof is how good Sanheim has been without him, he isn’t what the Leafs need at all

Edmundson, hasn’t been good since he was a Cane or a Blue, he isn’t a Top pair guy anymore in the slightest not to mention you have 0 right shots & gave Lilly away for basically nothing that helps the team, you somehow managed to make a horrible defensive team EVEN WORSE DEFENSIVELY, Bjugstad that’s fine 1/3 on trades but god those 1st 2 are absolute ****e

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 41

Sujet: Who say no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Rielly isn't a 1D.

He never was.

Just because he's a 1D on Toronto doesn't make him an actual 1D.

It's the Dylan Larkin argument.

He's a 1C on Detroit.

Not a legit 1C.

Doesn't mean Rielly and Larkin aren't very good players.

But you are right about one thing.

You certainly have no idea what you're talking about.

You can tell your other CFACGM alts that too. 🤣</div></div>

Ok cool, now get to the part WHY THE LEAFS WOULD EVER NEED A 35 YR OLD ERIK KARLSSON FOR 10 MILLION DOLLARS, INSTEAD OF USING THAT MONEY ON CHEAPER,YOUNGER D-MEN IN THE OFFSEASON

Demelo,Montour,Forsling,Roy,Pesce,Skjei,Cole,Grezlyck i guarantee you can get one or more for less than Karlssons salary

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 34

Sujet: Who say no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SwarmChair</b></div><div>Reilly is a great 2D. But not a true 1D IMO. Marner can definitely rack up his cookies in the playoffs…. In certain games. But when things get tough he disappears. There’s a reason the leaf’s have won 1 round in the Matthews era and the only round they won was quite lucky against a regressed lightning team that may not even make the playoffs this year.

EK65 won a Norris cause he single handedly carriers the Sharks last year. On the right team he can do that agin.</div></div>

Where did he “Carry” the sharks exactly?,Oh in point totals when his defensive Iq is on par with a cardboard box? like Erik Karlsson is THE LAST THING THE LEAFS NEED, replacing Marner with him would be a braindead move & Mitch does not need a change of scenery like at all, he’s still over a ppg player & hasn’t even hit 28 yrs of age

One of these guys is a Over PPG player who is a 6 time 20 goal scorer,multi time 90+ point scorer,selke runner up & one of the most prolific playmakers in hockey who is sublime on the PK plus is only 27

Karlsson is a 33 yr old 2 Time Norris Trophy winner who gets paid 10 mil & puts up points,with injury history who can QB a PP & that’s about it

Value is not close what so ever, to even think of this you’re likely adding a prospect most likely Pickering & a 1st on top of that, I can see the Pens getting a 2024 3rd back but that is about it

Look at this objectively

The Leafs in this trade lose a Top 10 RW in the League & get a Top 30 defensemen who really doesn’t help the issues with the defence for basically the same cap hit, if you really think that is fair value then you actually are insane Pickering would need to be included as well as a 1st next year or 2nd this year, maybe we’ll send you Niemela & Hirvonen back to Kyle as a Thank You but Value wise you’re off by alot

& Finally ERIK KARLSSON IN 2024 IS NOT A 1D, the 1D of the Pens is Letang, glad we cleared that up

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 30

Sujet: Postseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>It's kind of a weird persepctive to think adding someone in the ilk of Rielly would be a redundancy, but they're different players regardless. Provorv is a minute-munching all situations defenseman who can play both ways, exactly what the Leafs need.</div></div>

& He sucks at it, he did in Philly too now look at Sanheim without him, this is a complete waste of assets to make a already bad defensive team even worse defensively

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 28

Sujet: Fair

Jesus, this makes me wanna hurl

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 27

Sujet: Kalyiev wants a change of scenery

Whenever a guy requests a trade his value plummets not rises

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 27

Sujet: Tell me what you think the prices are in the comments

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Also a real solid defensive forward as well

Like I said before, trading him for us doesn’t makes sense because it wouldn’t be worth it the the minimal return he’d get if any at all</div></div>

His Defence is the reason i’d want him on the Leafs 3rd line. as for getting minimal value, you either do that or lose him for nothing so why not get a free asset for a guy playing the 4th line for you guys

Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 7 h 25

Sujet: Tell me what you think the prices are in the comments

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>A second for a bottom 4 D on an insane contract. To a rival. Seems pretty fair.

Let’s not forget Leafs fans want a first for Liljegren, who is the same type of player, only 2 years younger</div></div>

Lilly has been playing 2nd pair minutes & has great underlying numbers, anyone will tell you that, Kovacevic is a 5-6 D with some upside Lilly has a much higher ceiling or else Kovacevic wouldn’t have been on waivers at all

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