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Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. 2020 à 15 h 53
Sujet: WindJammer for Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>But you're forgetting that the Jets have absolutely no reason to trade Laine. They own his rights for 3 more years. Domi with only 2 years to UFA isn't appealing and Danault as a rental isn't. Danault with a reasonable extension might be a starting point, but would require significant adds due to age.

You can also stop adding players like Mete and Kulak, like they have value, as every team has 4 or 5 bottom pairing guys kicking around or can sign them as FA's so they add no value.

So, if the Jets were forced to trade Laine, you might have a point, but in this case unless the Jets get exactly what they want, they just keep Laine and fill the holes with players that don't cost a premium asset. The Jets are a better team with Laine and other players filling the holes than they are with Danault or Domi and no Laine.</div></div>

I won't say Peg has to trade Laine, but you can't go into the season with Wheeler as your 2 C can you? and as somebody alluded to above, you've got a position of strength to trade from being Wingers.
And Habs, have a position of strength to trade from in Center.

It IS a match made in heaven-it's just a matter of adding the right pieces that Peg needs/wants/perceived value.

And yes, of course - too overvalue our own players.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. 2020 à 15 h 53
Sujet: WindJammer for Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>But you're forgetting that the Jets have absolutely no reason to trade Laine. They own his rights for 3 more years. Domi with only 2 years to UFA isn't appealing and Danault as a rental isn't. Danault with a reasonable extension might be a starting point, but would require significant adds due to age.

You can also stop adding players like Mete and Kulak, like they have value, as every team has 4 or 5 bottom pairing guys kicking around or can sign them as FA's so they add no value.

So, if the Jets were forced to trade Laine, you might have a point, but in this case unless the Jets get exactly what they want, they just keep Laine and fill the holes with players that don't cost a premium asset. The Jets are a better team with Laine and other players filling the holes than they are with Danault or Domi and no Laine.</div></div>

I won't say Peg has to trade Laine, but you can't go into the season with Wheeler as your 2 C can you? and as somebody alluded to above, you've got a position of strength to trade from being Wingers.
And Habs, have a position of strength to trade from in Center.

It IS a match made in heaven-it's just a matter of adding the right pieces that Peg needs/wants/perceived value.

And yes, of course - too overvalue our own players.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. 2020 à 15 h 43
Sujet: WindJammer for Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyFan989</b></div><div>Well think about it, u have your needs we have our needs, Romanov is a quality prospect I get but at the left side defence where we r stacked with so we don’t need him pointless to have in the trade, he adds value I know but he’s more valuable to MTL then he is to WPG this we don’t look at him the same, a first is nice but it’s in the mid round so it has little value in a trade of this caliber, Suzuki is the main piece coming from the Habs for sure but MTL values him pretty high (understandably cause he has #1 potential and their lack of good center as for so long) he has very high value the jets as well but at the cost of Laine? Just no, prefer Laine cause he’s more proven and less risk (need to see more than 1 season in the NHL out of Suzuki first) and we would be digging another hole to fill one up... and Laine has more upside (I think) and fits more into the jets age group so......

All in all the package is more then enough for Laine but it’s worth way more to MTL then to us
So considering it... right words</div></div>

All very valid points. this is not a trade I've actually suggested before, it came up in discussions.
I've made, and seen plenty of trades which do fill your needs of 2C,(Danault extended and not ext, or Domi) 16th overall, Depth pieces and additional draft picks.

The point of this AGM was that I've never seen WindJammer accept a Laine trade.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. 2020 à 8 h 42