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Forum: Armchair-GM4 déc. 2023 à 23 h 32
Sujet: Dubas please sell and start planning for big changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>I’m so sorry for Pits fans.. No clue what the Pens where thinking when they hired him.

He had all the play he wanted in Toronto, had some of the best productive offensive in the NHL outside of EDM top players and signed bad defensive but offensive players at the blue line and no goalie. He goes to PITS what does he do… takes the worst +- defensive player in the league with a 10M$ cap hit.. then fires anyone that could call him out on it.

So sorry for PITS fans… not way better in TOR with the other bad GM that scrapped the Flames.. Dubas and Treliving have done bad baaaaad moves yet still work in the league..</div></div>

He’s a good gm, not sure what you wanted him to do, he traded away bad players on horrid contracts for someone who can at least contribute also +- lmao using that stat is a joke. Pens are just super volatile and with the injuries that really makes them unstable now.
Forum: Armchair-GM1 juill. 2023 à 17 h 27
Sujet: Absolutely Brutal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Flower was a generational goalie. It’s not even close. Jarry is the same as Campbell, Darcy Keumper (ya he won a cup on a loaded team), Husso, Binnington (awful contract), Andersen, Korpisalo (another awful contract), Grubauer (awful contract), Samsonov, and Georgiev.

There are elites and everyone else. The elites are:

Sorokin
Vasilevskiy
Shesterkin
Otter
Hellebuyck
Saros

This is the almost elite list:

Demko
Bobrovsky
Gustavsson (too soon yet but he’s close)
Ullmark (one great year doesn’t quite get you there)
Swayman (young still but could get there
Skinner (showed me more in one year than just about any of the goalies in Jarry’s camp)
Markstrom (he was once an elite but fell off)</div></div>

And Jarry goes right at the top of the almost elite list after Ullmark. Therefore putting him in the 8-10 range of goalies - like I said. And he is the 12th highest paid goalie - therefore not making the contract awful.

We all wanted the AAV to be lower - and think it's a bit high. But a possible slight overpayment doesn't make a contract awful. You're not being rational here man. I think it's easier to rank in tiers than an actual numbered order - that's why I put him in the 8-10 range. He's on the next tier outside the elites. Nothing wrong with that - and he's paid as such. He has a .915 save % over the last 4 seasons, stop trying to act like he isn't good. 2 top 7 Vezina finishes - would have been 3 if he didn't get hurt this past season
Forum: Armchair-GM1 juill. 2023 à 16 h 32
Sujet: Absolutely Brutal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensman69</b></div><div>Nailed it. I mean, what were the better options really? Trading valuable assets for a goalie of the SAME CALIBER or trading a haul for Hellebuyck/Gibson which just isn’t in the game plan for the future of the team. I don’t like the contract but I don’t hate it. I think Dubas is getting way too much scrutiny on this move, I don’t think there were much better options he could’ve went with…</div></div>

Agreed. I think the defense in front of Jarry was way way more important to correct than the goaltending itself. I mean Jarry was bad last year, but the D was arguably even worse. Not much he can do with guys wide open in front of him. Graves signing is good and will help a ton. Karlsson if we get him will help the transition game significantly. If we can do that plus rebuild 3rd line I'm feeling good.
Forum: Armchair-GM1 juill. 2023 à 16 h 28
Sujet: Absolutely Brutal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Jarry contract is one of the worst in the league for any goalie. It makes Jack Campbell’s look smart.</div></div>

Jarry has been much more consistent and reliable than Campbell. Goalie is one of the most cerebral and difficult positions in sports, giving a goalie some stability and a respectful payday can give them peace of mind and inspire confidence. A happy goalie tends to be a solid goalie. Shoring up the defense helps take some pressure off him too. PIT has too many aging players with clauses. They HAVE TO win now. It's the only option. There is definitely more work to be done, but I wouldn't be so brash with your judgement just yet. Also, the cap is going up significantly after this year and beyond. They'll be fine.
Forum: Armchair-GM1 juill. 2023 à 16 h 23
Sujet: Absolutely Brutal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>Bottom 6 still needs a ton of work. Love the Graves signing though. I'm assuming one or both of Petry and Granlund will be traded. Rutta needs to be traded as well.

Jarry contract is horrific, but also I don't think Dubas had much of a choice. Literally every other goalie was gone. This is 100% not ideal at all, but I would still rather Jarry at 5 mil then having to trade a 1st for another goalie.</div></div>

Nailed it. I mean, what were the better options really? Trading valuable assets for a goalie of the SAME CALIBER or trading a haul for Hellebuyck/Gibson which just isn’t in the game plan for the future of the team. I don’t like the contract but I don’t hate it. I think Dubas is getting way too much scrutiny on this move, I don’t think there were much better options he could’ve went with…