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Armchair-GM
1 avr. à 21 h 48
Sujet:
Rantanen trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Thorne</b></div><div>Who would you get rid of next summer? On top of losing Drouin and Walker for nothing, COL has to get rid of atleast one roster player (Girard, Colton, Lehkonen) to make the cap work if they insist on keeping Rantanen. While I agree that keeping Rantanen probably gives us the better roster for 24-25, I think that by trading him COL can extend the cup-contending window beyond 26-27 (Makar extension).</div></div>
Colton. Not because I dislike him in any way but because he's the most replaceable. The only way you trade Rants is if you're thinking of doing something like going after Guentzel in free agency and trading for Crosby if he were to suddenly be available.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 avr. à 17 h 58
Sujet:
Rantanen trade
I know what day it is, but that is a severe underpay for Rants
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 avr. à 17 h 20
Sujet:
With landy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Bridge deals are what you do for players who will finish said deal as an RFA. Mitts has already been bridged before. Why would he take 4.5 when they gave the 3C 4, and 4LW 2.5?
He would take his QO and walk to FA before taking a bridge.</div></div>
That's a good question cause I Googled mittelstadt contract and before he got traded a a website was saying they predict 2-3 year bridge deal for 4 million or long term 6x6 million. I was going off what they put
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 avr. à 16 h 28
Sujet:
making it work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CooleyforCalder</b></div><div>What's the ask for Girard??</div></div>
The Hronek to VAN trade is the comparable imo were he to be made available.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 21 h 19
Sujet:
Stamkos Leonard Manson Skjei
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>I'm one who disagrees with that. Manson is much older than Girard and has less term; I believe they can find another 3rd pair level guy that can play physically enough to replace that aspect of Manson's game even if he can't replace the offense and puck-moving. Plus, Manson has a lengthy injury history; what happens if Manson gets hurt 20 games into next season and they have no Girard? I am in the camp that believes it would be a mistake to trade Girard rather than Manson if they do go down the path of trading a D to create cap space.</div></div>
Yep, you and I are very much in opposite camps on this one as far as which D to trade, I'd noted that one previously. I can however see both sides of the argument there. Thing is I'd prefer they traded one of the forwards over any more of the D even if Girard would be my choice there ahead of Manson. As much as I've liked Colton's play I think it was a mistake to sign him to that deal (they pretty much had to after trading for him and probably were hoping for less and I think it's come back to bite them in the proverbial) probably even more than signing Manson to his. He would be my first choice to move if any. He's the most easily replaced of the 4-5 mil contracts imo.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 14 h 31
Sujet:
The Moose in the Room
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>I reject the premise that they can't keep Rants and still have depth. If they trade Rants, they might as well just start a rebuild because they won't win any more Cups without him.</div></div>
I wouldn't go quite so far as to say they wouldn't win any more cups and they could easily retool rather than rebuild, but that said, there is no real reason to trade him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 13 h 19
Sujet:
The Moose in the Room
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>The entire point this ACGM was making is that you can't keep Rants AND your depth, now you both are saying jetison the depth, which is what OP was trying to avoid.
Yeah, you can drop the third line to keep Rantanen, but then you become the Leafs, too top heavy to win.</div></div>
LOL! You CAN have depth, you just have to be frugal with what you pay and trust some of the youth.
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Armchair-GM
31 mars à 12 h 44
Sujet:
The Moose in the Room
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>You need a delta greater than 5 million, moving out "one contract" isn't going to get it done, unless that contract is Landeskog, it would take at least two of your 4-5 million contracts and for them to be replaced by ~1 million dollar contracts, at which point, you've stripped out your third line.</div></div>
It was always going to be the case that the Avs would have to run with some ELCs and league min contracts and possibly a short roster. It only takes one 4-5 mil contract to do so. So any of Colton, Girard, Lehkonen or Manson.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 10 h 25
Sujet:
The Moose in the Room
Rantanen isn’t going to get moved but the elephant in the room might be Georgiev getting moved, and watching Landeskog skate makes me wonder if he is ever going to play. Moving Rantanen isn’t the answer to any question COL has.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 10 h 19
Sujet:
The Moose in the Room
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>If Rantanen has to move due to cap constraints, I could see Anaheim making a play for him. Strome doesn't have quite the same scoring capability as Baths, but he's got 50-60 points capability with the right line mates as shown in NYR, and Anaheim has other assets that could be offered provided there's a sign and trade.
I'd propose Strome, the EDM 1st, and Zellwegger. Maybe also swap Wood out for a cheaper NHL caliber LW as I have a hard time believing that Mitts signs for only 6</div></div>
That doesn’t get close to getting a top 15 player in the league, not even remotely.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 9 h 9
Sujet:
Drake Batherson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnonymousSensFan</b></div><div>24 years old, no NHL games yet (even though he was signed by Colorado in the summer). His goal production has dipped quite a bit from last season, and on a mid KHL team (based on standings, I don't actually follow KHL), so if he's good, he'd likely be getting a lot of playing time.
Sorry if that doesn't scream elite prospect to me.
If you're argument is that he ain't a bust cause he was a 6th round pick, sure, whatever. A draft pick is a draft pick in my book, but whatever.
Either way, he ain't worth Drake</div></div>
I’m not sure what Batherson’s value is. I’m not going to weigh in on something I don’t know about. Perhaps something you should try out.
Kovalenko has been under contract with his KHL team. That’s why he hasn’t played an NHL game yet. He was so good last season in the KHL that the Avs signed him a season early to burn a year off his ELC. He flew over like a week ago to start his NHL career.
He is the best player on his team in the KHL (coached by Igor Larionov) and plays a very North American game: heavy, physical, forechecking. Way different than like the Gusevs and the Shipachov’s of the world.
Is Kovalenko going to be the next Kaprisov? No, absolutely not. But your comment kinda shows your ass a little bit here. You have no idea what you’re talking about on this one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 10 h 16
Sujet:
Drake Batherson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnonymousSensFan</b></div><div>A late 1st and Ross Colton does not get the Drake
Edit: The LD prospect is useless to the Sens (undersized and at the deepest position on the Sens) and the other is a bust</div></div>
Say you don’t know what you’re talking about without saying it. Acting like Batherson is like a pt per game player, that would be a haul for a guy like that, there isn’t a chance COL does that trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mars à 13 h 21
Sujet:
Mighty Mighty Bosstones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Mitts isn't going to take less that 7AAV, and go look at your injury log this season and tell me it's a good idea to run a 21 man roster.</div></div>
After getting deals on almost every other player, I think they can manage a 500k deal on Mitts.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>Would definitely give them the space they need but I'm not sure anyone wants five more years of a bottom-sixer. Parise has already said this is his last year.</div></div>
More of a placeholder, but you're right
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 mars à 16 h 28
Sujet:
Draft day trade
Still a very large NO from the Avs.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 mars à 9 h 19
Sujet:
next mans up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>Nuke and Sammy are hurt?</div></div>
Beds said day to day, so.... they ded
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 mars à 17 h 23
Sujet:
USA - 4 Nations Face-off 2025
Man you could ice 2 Team USA's.
Not sure about Cat and Kane.
Gotta think Larkin is on this team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 mars à 3 h 39
Sujet:
Shake it up
I didn’t see a lack of effort, I saw a lack of physicality and a goalie that was stopping shots that he had no right to. Man he played great. Both teams were flying. The habs were attacking our dmen all night long causing turnovers, odd man rushes and preventing us from maintaining high pressure cycles.
Walker had a really bad game.
We didn’t adjust or couldn’t play a heavy deep cycle game like we have in the past.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 mars à 18 h 0
Sujet:
Serious rebuild
Walker is playing real good right now but i think we're a bit blinded by his .5 goals per game. He's not worth 5 mil. him and malinski will basically be the same player in another year. Makes no sense to make a big downgrade in what manson brings to get more of the same in what walker will bring. i hope he keeps bumping up his play to make a huge pay day in free agency but we didn't really pay much for him when you factor in the johansen contract, which should tell you that you can find average puck movers easier than the grit and grind type players who are playing top 4 minutes.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 mars à 12 h 25
Sujet:
An Optimistic Attempt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>NSH declines. Colton isn't really worth a 2nd, or $4M a season. The Preds have multiple call up options in the A, that should be able to match or beat Colton's production.</div></div>
I don't agree with much of your comment. I think he's worth both the price and the salary. I may not have the right team though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 mars à 12 h 22
Sujet:
An Optimistic Attempt
I wouldn't move Manson to keep Walker. Manson does more around the puck and plays with a presence. JJ likely wont be back so they need some size and Walker's offence can be found elsewhere, like Malinski.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 mars à 12 h 31
Sujet:
An Optimistic Attempt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>I wouldn't move Manson to keep Walker. Manson does more around the puck and plays with a presence. JJ likely wont be back so they need some size and Walker's offence can be found elsewhere, like Malinski.</div></div>
I'd love to keep both, but I'm taking Walker if I have to choose one. Manson can be replaced easier at the next deadline or earlier.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mars à 17 h 10
Sujet:
Whats the difference between early Nichushkin and Kakko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>It’s always been good since he was a teen coming into the league. It’s obviously better than his offense. Maybe above average but not elite, just yet?</div></div>
Well nuke had to redefine his game after his time in Dallas, the reason he's so effective is because of his speed, added with a motor that doesn't stop, being the first guy to the puck and winning puck battles.. his shot isn't very good and his deke move is always the same lol. So paired with other skilled players he's the "hyman" of the line, he's getting better at deflections and is picking up a bunch of assists from mack and rants.. while slamming in pucks from the front of the net
Mostly he's just an effective big bodied puck carrier that doesn't quit on anything
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mars à 6 h 49
Sujet:
Short offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>57 Games in the ahl this year at present, as long as his defensive game is solid there is no reason not to</div></div>
There’s a thousand reasons not to, he’s been playing a top 6 role in Loveland which is a far cry from playing 4C in COL, COL has serious development issues imo with forwards and it has a lot to do with projecting and playing the role envisioned for them. They have literally burned a kings ransom in draft picks doing things like playing a guy at 4C after 57 AHL games then being shocked when it doesn’t work.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mars à 12 h 3
Sujet:
kyle dubas moves
A Cairo isn’t worth either LOC or Parise much less both
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mars à 12 h 45
Sujet:
24-25
Love it as a Leafs fan and props to you for providing some thoughtful reasoning. Having said that, it seems like Colorado committed heavily to Colton and won't sell him for pennies on the dollar
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