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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 18 h 40
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 18 h 34
Sujet: If NJD wins 2nd overall pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>So basically you hopefully pulled something out of your backside, came up with percentages with limited logic behind it, and are hoping it to be true even though the GM of the Bruins shut down discussions immediately

I can pretty much guarantee if Swayman is traded, it is NOT going to be for someone like Mercer. It will be in a package for someone like Draisaitl or Hirschier.

With Mercer’s pending RFA contract, I don’t feel like Ullmark for him is all that much of a stretch personally. His primary value is maybe in a bridge contract especially if you don’t believe he can play center.

Maybe toss in a future 2nd and a secondary prospect like Merkulov along with Ullmark,</div></div>

80% of players who go through Arb hearings are gone in two years. Most fans of those teams say the same thing, “our guy is different”…”our GM will never let him go”…yet it happens all the time. Also, at goalie position specifically, RFAs are more likely moved than signed guys. They were over $2m apart on a one-year deal last time. That’s not very close. And haven’t gotten very far on long-term deal. So a little early to make any sort of guarantees.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 17 h 33
Sujet: If we hire Travis Greene might as well rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Was Hughes injured when he took over? Sounds like he put some bottom 6 guys on the top lines? No</div></div>

Hughes was hurt most of second half, whether he was in lineup or not. Green did get a bump out of Meier…seemed to put him in better spot for success. And he went on a run…but that was likely coming whoever was coach (Timo has always been streaky with goal-scoring).

Green communicates well. Hard to tell on X’s and O’s As he didn’t really have time to implement his approach. Lindy was very inflexible at the end…and I think there was demand to switch things around. So would give credit to Green to try new things. We improved a bit defensively (but may also have been the addition of Allen/Kahkonen).

It’s just kind of hard to have an opinion either way.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 17 h 26
Sujet: If NJD wins 2nd overall pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>Agree, which is why I don’t believe it makes any sense to discuss a top 10 pick or Swayman without significantly changing the parameters of the deal.

The only difference is most Bruins fans say top 10 is too much and most Jersey fans know Swayman isn’t available.

You are emulating the people who say Ullmark for a top 10 pick is viable. Same level of unrealistic, optimistic thinking</div></div>

I have shared my reasoning numerous times.

1. Swayman went through Arb hearing. More than 80% of players that do are not on team within two years.

2. Swayman started talking extension again when window opened in January. His agent flew into town for pow-wow with B’s brass. But they didn’t get far.

3. Many observers said that they expected him to sign just as window opened (Friedman, Kaplan, etc). But he didn’t. It’s possible team side was too optimistic.

4. Shortly after their meetings, when asked about his all-star selection, he brought up the painful experience from Arb hearings.

5. At all star game, he hugged other goalies.

(Especially #5…lol)

It is a more sound approach to anything from Bruins fans around Top-10 pick for Ullmark or Mercer for Ullmark. I have also said many times that I expect Swayman to return to Boston…but believe him to be fair game until then.

But right now, I’d say it’s 80/20 he extends…maybe 75/25. If he is not signed by the draft, then maybe it becomes more if 60/40….and drops under 50/50 if he files for arbitration.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 17 h 7
Sujet: If NJD wins 2nd overall pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>Like I said, it’s a sign of not being serious. If someone has told you no, how long before disregarding it does it border on disrespect or worse. If the NJ GM did this, I’d question his judgment and wonder if he knew how to get a deal done.

Sweeney said he wasn’t available enough to even entertain discussing it. This would likely irritate him more than foster a potential trade</div></div>

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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 51
Sujet: If NJD wins 2nd overall pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>all the rumor said was 2nd OA was involved in a trade for Mathew, almost guaranteed there were other pieces going to CGY with the 2nd OA too.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>all the rumor said was 2nd OA was involved in a trade for Mathew, almost guaranteed there were other pieces going to CGY with the 2nd OA too.</div></div>

There were really two rumors that have been mixed. There was first something that LeBrun and others reported weeks after it occurred and it said that NJD offered up 2nd overall to Calgary for Tkachuk between the lottery and the draft. It sounded like it was a kick-the-tires starting point…but Calgary wouldn’t budge since they were trying to extend him. So it didn’t get any further.

The second was in the period between when Tkachuk said he wasn’t extending in Alberta and before his list of teams became public. This was a few weeks after NJD had drafted Nemec. It was more speculative and it’s unclear if NJ really made an offer at that point.

So we don’t really know…but it’s possible, if Calgary had wanted that 2nd pick, there would have been other pieces involved.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 39
Sujet: If NJD wins 2nd overall pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>My guess is Boston just hangs up or proposes a deal that NJ won’t do.

Not sure which is the more likely scenario. All I know is the deal you just outlined probably annoys them more than anything else . There comes a point where you question the judgment of the offerer and just move onto other teams with the goalie that is actually available. My belief is anyone who would ask about Swayman again is not serious about making a deal for a goalie. It’s literally wasting his time every time it’s brought up.

If Boston is interested, they will let you know. They won’t be, so I wouldn’t hold your breath</div></div>

He has not signed…so until then, we shall try

(It’s also a little pushback on some of the Ullmark offers of late)