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Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 30

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>The offer above won’t happen. It’s going to look more like at the very best

Strome
Chytil
Georgiev
Henriksson
1st
2nd

Whether it’s good enough or not isn’t for either of us to decide.. KA will have to make that decision and if he chooses to keep the disgruntled star then so be it. Whether I think that’s enough or not is completely irrelevant to whether it happens or not</div></div>

I could see this being close

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 28

Sujet: eichel again and again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>amigos71</b></div><div>i understand your point but i really think this is the best they will get and kk is only 20 he still as a lot of time to develop into a great 2 way center,</div></div>
I don’t think there’s any way Eichel is traded within the division unless the offer blows everyone else away. I mean, it can’t even be close. Without Caufield or Suzuki, you have no chance at getting him. It’s just facts. They want him in the west.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 27

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>A few Buffalo fans reported that bit Kakko and Laf ++ was the original ask</div></div>
I don’t think that’s been reported. I think that’s what people want it to be. That’s not happening. Now, should the rangers trade laf and kakko straight up for Eichel if that’s the ask? I say yes. You’ll still win that trade.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 24

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>You really are choosing to interpret things as you seem fit rather than at face value. I didn’t say that’s fair, I simply was saying he isn’t untouchable. And there, I provided an example of how he isn’t untouchable. That’s not me making a trade offer</div></div>
What’s the ask? The only think anyone has reported is 4 first round equivalents. I think the realistic return should be a top prospect, 1 b level prospect, a ‘22 unprotected 1st, and a cap dump.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 20

Sujet: eichel again and again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>amigos71</b></div><div>a top 5 young goalie, a future top 6 centerman, drouin ( who said he's ready to play) and basically two first rounder is not giving away someone. and it seems like no one is ready to give a big piece for a eichel trade so that's the best they'll get.</div></div>
The Sabres have 3 goaltending prospects. Not interested. JK is lookin like trash. He’d be buffalo’s third line center (maybe) and we stink. Drouin is nothing to get excited about. Guhle, he’s a decent piece.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 14

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Kakko isn’t untouchable, the package that you’re asking for is. Kakko for JE straight up would happen, maybe a few smaller adds but not what is being asked for. Thing is we don’t NEED Eichel. Our roster is pretty amazing and we have future superstars already not to mention Zibby, Panarin and Fox.. Eichel is just the cherry on top, he’s not the sundae for us</div></div>
Kakko for Eichel. Lol. Reality check. Laf and Kakko’s career points (3 years combined) still don’t match Jack eichel’s rookie totals. If you traded Laf and kakko for JE, you’d still win that trade.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 10

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>You know I was just joking around right?!</div></div>
About the pick? Yes. About the trade offer being a good one? I think you think that’s a good offer

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 9

Sujet: Jackiee

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakingHistory</b></div><div>his going demand a trade and his going get traded</div></div>
That doesn’t mean anything. Risto demanded a trade years ago. Don’t get me wrong. They should trade him. But, you don’t give him away. In the end, he’s a valuable asset.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 21 h 7

Sujet: eichel again and again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>amigos71</b></div><div>i understand where you're coming from and i'm not saying he has to come to mtl but when a player is as unhappy as jack is you dont want him around for the next 5 years</div></div>
Totally agree. You also don’t give away an elite player.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 39

Sujet: All in Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Better than ranger and mtl offers</div></div>
Well, their prospects are all future superstars, so can you blame them?

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 37

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>It is, he will be the next kucherov. No way I’m parting with the 2023 7th</div></div>

And you’ll always be that one piece away because you all thought kakko was untouchable. Lol

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 35

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>1. Won’t go well with JE and his camp
2. Won’t be getting a better return with a year or 2 off the contract(but also not adding the “futures” now means they also don’t get to build chemistry in that year with the team)

I’m not saying the package is 2 D prospects and there’s no choice in the matter. Just that it’s not going to look like the Kakko, Chytil, Schneider, 2 1sts that some are thinking</div></div>
If Jack doesn’t like it, that’s too bad for him. He’s under team control for 5 years. Ideally he gets traded, but you don’t give him away for the Rangers second tier garbage. If that’s the best anyone can offer, you sit on him. After this year, Jacks NTC kicks in, which is bad for Buffalo, but also for other teams. This is your last chance to get him. Otherwise, good luck finding a superstar

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 32

Sujet: eichel again and again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>amigos71</b></div><div>look at what you guys got for reinhart. this isn't a seller's market. you're not getting either caufield or suzuki in this market sorry</div></div>
That’s fine. You’re not getting Eichel. No one said Eichel had to get traded or that Montreal had to have Eichel. Everyone assumes Buffalo has to trade Eichel. They don’t. And shouldn’t. If you don’t get what you want, you keep him. For 5 years if you have to.

As far as reino, he’s an RFA who’ll be a UFA in his next contract. He’s also not close to the same player. You can get players like him more easily. Jack Eichel, in his prime, with team control for 5 years… never happens. The price for that is and should be a premium.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 28

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhroblak</b></div><div>If Chris Drury didn't explicitly reveal his strong resistance to trading Braden Schneider, then yes.</div></div>

Haha. Your 2023 7th rd pick is untouchable.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 26

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Not when 1 GM is playing hardball and posturing, trying to leverage other team’s “offers”. But not that we are the only ones left there will have to be some reality check or just hold onto him and that’s not going to go over well</div></div>
Won’t go over well with who?

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 24

Sujet: Jackiee

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakingHistory</b></div><div>Yep give it week</div></div>
I honestly don’t think it’s happening any time soon. And it shouldn’t. Bring him back. Let him have surgery. Suck. Win the lottery

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 20 h 23

Sujet: eichel again and again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhroblak</b></div><div>You're gonna be really disappointed.</div></div>
I guess we’ll see.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 19 h 20

Sujet: eichel again and again

You guys with these trades are funny.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 19 h 19

Sujet: Jackiee

Nope

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 19 h 19

Sujet: Can the Rangers Afford Eichel and Zibanejad

I mean, if that’s all it took to get Eichel, don’t you think that trade would’ve been done already?

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 13 h 2

Sujet: The value of Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Your mom think you are special too.</div></div>
Haha. I would hope so. She’s my mom.
Listen, before you sound more uneducated and childish, just do some research. That’s all I ask. Eichel is an elite center. Top 5. Worst case, top 6. If you don’t know that, I’m being serious, watch film

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 12 h 55

Sujet: The value of Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>"Top 5 center" LOL</div></div>
Like I said, its not your fault. It’s okay. We don’t shame ppl for not knowing.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 12 h 39

Sujet: The value of Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>The only reason I'm confused is because I read your comment.

Case in point, Kaprizov's value has nothing to do with Eichel’s.</div></div>
Don’t be mad because you don’t know how good Eichel is and don’t understand his value to a team. He’s been stuck on a horrible team in a small market, so why would you? Sabres fans get upset because these lowball offers are ridiculous for a top 5 center. If he goes for that, it’s an absolute steal. If you can’t understand that, like I said, I can’t blame you for being naive

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 11 h 4

Sujet: The value of Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>And for his mother, Eichel is worth more than Fort Knox 🙄

Technically, Eichel us worth less than this rumor, since the market refuse to pay that much for him so far...</div></div>
Now you’re confusing worth and market value. Eichel is worth more than that offer. Supposedly, market value is equivalent to this offer. Two different things.

Case in point, would you trade kaprizov for that offer? No? Why not? That’s the market value.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juill. 2021 à 7 h 6

Sujet: The value of Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EccE</b></div><div>O'Rourke is better than Hague so no. But the point of this ACGM was to show Sabres fans that Eichel is not worth Boldy, Rossi, Addison, two 1st rounders and Guerin's literal soul</div></div>
That doesn’t show what Eichel is worth. That’s just your best comp to a rumored trade. Those are two different things.

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