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Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 mars à 13 h 58
Sujet:
Ideal Deadline Year 2
I honestly can’t see the Oilers running Broberg & trading Kulak.
Good trades though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 févr. à 13 h 32
Sujet:
____
In all honesty, the Oilers would be all over that trade.
The very least the Oilers could flip Markstrom
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 févr. à 13 h 30
Sujet:
Sweden 2025 Cup of Nations
Good team
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 févr. à 15 h 25
Sujet:
Deadline
Oilers decline.
Here’s why, the total package is more than the Flames got for Lindholm. How does this make the Oilers better?
Burying Campbell now gives the Oilers the same relief as Allen contract so that doesn’t make sense.
Philip Broberg is coming up to play on the Oilers, which is why Kulak is on every top ten trading list.
Lastly, NO NHL team is in the buisness of giving away a first round pick for nothing in return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 juill. 2023 à 0 h 38
Sujet:
Not Popular
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>a1979</b></div><div>Yes, 50.00 GF% is what is stated in the stats I presented to you. And a 50% goal share is not elite in any way, regardless of how good or bad the team you are playing on is. Elite players put up strong numbers regardless of their situation. Karlsson, at one point, was one of the best (if not the best) of his generation and I won't deny that.
Between 2020-2021 through 2022-2023, of d-men of played 500+ minutes, Karlsson ranks 91st in CF%, 160th in GF%, 99th in xGF%, 72nd in SCF%, and 78th in HCDF%. Do those numbers scream elite to you? They don't scream top pairing d-man to me. Nor do they scream $11.5 million.
So, lets compare those 5v5 rankings to Bouchard's over the same time period:
Between 2020-2021 through 2022-2023, Bouchard ranks 13th in CF%, 101st in GF%, 19th in xGF%, 34th in SCF%, and 42nd in HDCF% - all of which are better than Karlsson's numbers.
Bouchard puts up strong 5v5 numbers and strong powerplay numbers.
I do know what kind of defenseman Bouchard is, he is extremely comparable to Stanley Cup winning d-man, Alex Pietrangelo (according to JFresh, his closest comparable player based on advanced metrics).
Regardless of his Norris, despite him playing on a bad San Jose Sharks team, Erik Karlsson is not the defenseman that the Oilers need to get them over the hump. Goalscoring is not an issue with this roster, and with Karlssons one dimensional, pure offence game, I don't see how he would solve the Oilers greatest issue. That being, defensive zone coverage, limiting chances, and keeping goals against down.</div></div>
This is the difference between analytics and having a brain, if you think Bouchard is better than Pietrangelo you have absolutely no clue about the game of hockey.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 juill. 2023 à 0 h 36
Sujet:
Not Popular
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Bouchard broke out at the end of the year and in the playoffs. 5v5 scoring rate over the last 19 regular season games was better than Karlssons, and his PP scoring rates were off the charts. That carried over into the playoffs.
His full season on ice stats like xGF% Rel, SCF% Rel and HDCF% Rel were all better than Karlsson last year. He didn't add as much on the offensive side as EK but his defensive contributions more than made up for it.
Plus, he'll be under $4M next year and likely the year after, if the Miller & Byram contracts serve as comparables. That's cheaper than EK could possibly be without getting a 3rd team involved, which is an expensive proposition. Why spend assets bringing in a 33 year old Karlsson (who will only decline over the next 4 years) when they already have an equivalent 23 year old player on the roster?</div></div>
Bouchard is going to end up with a Nurse type contract and I can’t believe people can’t see this.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juill. 2023 à 3 h 11
Sujet:
Not Popular
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>a1979</b></div><div>A d-man putting up 100 points is impressive, but the Norris is meant to go to the best all-around defenseman and that is not what EK was or is...not even close. EK is essentially a forward player defence.
If you want to talk 5v5 metrics...lets look at the stats:
Bouchard in 22-23: 56.95 CF%, 53.66 GF%, 57,68 xGF%, 58.24 SCF%, 59.61 HDCF%.
Karlsson in 22-23: 53.59 CF%, 50.00 GF%, 53.46 xGF%, 54.61 SCF%, 55.23 HDCF%.
Simply put, Bouchard is superior in every single advanced metric. Yes, Bouchard played fewer minutes but he is only 23 years old and isn't even in his prime, whereas Karlsson is years removed from his prime.
Also, Bouchard only played with Ekholm for the last couple months of the regular season. He played the majority of his minutes this past season with Broberg and Kulak (prior to the TDL).
Mike Grier has already said that he is not willing to retain as much money on an EK trade as you've proposed in this thread...so getting him on the books for $6 million is likely impossible.
Thus, is EK really cheaper? And even if he is, EK is going to be 37 years old when that contract ends. Is an $8-9 million (assuming ~30% retention of EK's salary) 37 year old pure offensive d-man going to help McDavid and Draisaitl stay or win a cup? Nope.
Take a look at that right hand side of the Oilers defence that you've proposed here. Karlsson, Ceci, and Desharnais. That is easily bottom 10 in the league for right hand d-men depth.
Bouchard isn't going to the reason as to why McDrai leave or not. And even if they did leave, I would rather have a young d-man in Bouchard on the team to rebuild with than a washed up, injury prone d-man in Karlsson.</div></div>
Nice try.
Karlsson had a 50% goal share 5v5
He literally pushes the river and scores at a ridiculous rate this isn’t a lucky year thing either, in the last 5 plus season his 5 on 5 numbers blow other Dman out of the water.
Bouchard has had 2 months of a season of PP time and is sheltered huge plus sheltered with another Dman who’s better defensively than he is.
Fact is you have zero idea what kind of defensemen Bouchard actually is.
Not to mention, but EK plays on a terrible team, Bouchard is run out with 97 or 29 and the Oilers are a SC contending team.
Also, it doesn’t matter that Bouchard is 21-22-23-24-25 the Oilers are down to 2-3 years, if they don’t win a cup in that window it won’t matter who the defender is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 4
Sujet:
Draisaitl
There’s no point in me adding anything it’s all been said.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 0
Sujet:
Not Popular
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>a1979</b></div><div>Even if Bouchard's contract is in the 8-9 million range, the cap is going to be going up significantly in the next 2-3 seasons. Karlsson put up one strong offensive season (despite 4+ down years), it's highly unlikely he puts up those totals again. And even if he put up those totals again, it's not really what the Oilers need. They were 1st in GF this year, and Karlsson brings nothing more to the table defensively than Bouchard does. You're essentially giving up one of the best up-and-coming young d-men in the league for an 33 year old injury prone d-man who just had an outlier year.</div></div>
Except a Norris….
Listen, 5v5 EK blows Bouchard out of the water, go look at EK on ice with every line then go look at what he was when he wasn’t on the ice, it’s like SJ iced 2 different teams.
Defensively EK is better and Offensively he’s better.
Not to mention Bouchard is sheltered with a superior partner.
You can have EK for far cheaper, giving the Oilers more money to build a deeper team. Lock another 9M D-man on the roster and see what happens if he struggles.
Bye-bye McDavid bye-bye Draisaitl
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2023 à 17 h 14
Sujet:
Dreams
Carter Hart for Draisaitl……….
Add TK - a healthy Sean Couturier - Owen Tippett and then we can start discussing draft picks
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2023 à 17 h 8
Sujet:
Not Popular
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>a1979</b></div><div>Trading Bouchard would be an awful decision. Pass.</div></div>
Explain why? Bouchard next contract is going to be Nurse esq; he’s asking for more than 4M right now.
You have 3 years left, that’s it, actually it’s only 2. Right now Karlsson is better at 5v5 and offensively.
Paying him more than a better defensmen is inexcusable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 juill. 2023 à 16 h 35
Sujet:
Long term bouchard and mcleod year 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matthias893</b></div><div>100% a no from San Jose. Benning has been a solid RD on an already fantastic contract. I wouldn't tie up a retention slot for 3 years for yet another LD in Niemelainen and a 3rd let alone adding Benning in.</div></div>
The Oilers gave Benning away because he wasn’t good enough, so did Nashville.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 juill. 2023 à 16 h 33
Sujet:
Konecny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>I suppose I should've specified that it's the cap and timing that limits it, not that Pesce is lacking. Even adding the extra 750k in difference between Pesce and Ceci really limits the team's ability to ice a mostly-full roster. For me, it's best to focus on getting the RFAs locked up without going too tight to the cap. Bouchard 3 * 1, McLeod 1.75 * 2, and Lavoie 775k * 2 should leave them around 1.6mil to add a proper 4C and still have not be too tight to the cap with a 22-man roster. At the deadline once some cap space has been accrued through the season, then I could see them pursuing Pesce for a package like this. The problem is that I think Carolina is going to move him well before then.
As for your specific point about any of Broberg, Holloway, or Lavoie going out to "balance the numbers", unless you're intending to ice a 20 or 21-man roster, that's not going to save you much of anything.</div></div>
Now that makes sense!
Cheers mate.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 juill. 2023 à 12 h 15
Sujet:
If I Was Dubas
Unless you’re taking Campbell the Oilers can’t make this trade, they don’t have the space.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 juill. 2023 à 12 h 13
Sujet:
Konecny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>EDM refuses. Pesce simply isn't a viable acquisition target for them.</div></div>
What are you talking about? Ceci can be traded & would be traded, plus anyone of Broberg, Holloway, foegele or Lavoie to balance the numbers.
Pesce numbers defensively are better than Ekholms.
Holland agrees with the trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 juill. 2023 à 12 h 7
Sujet:
My Stanley Cup Playoff Team
Another “best” team without Draisaitl…….just shows you how criminally underrated he is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 17 h 36
Sujet:
being bold but realistic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bsellar</b></div><div>I didnt put a 4C on purpose because the oilers usually don't have one. I think that parayko is going to bounce back the next 2 years but you might be on to something. I don't think bouchard camp likes 3M</div></div>
Bouchard. camp can pound sand, Bouchard doesn’t have arbitration rights, according to the CBA the Oilers are required to qualify Bouchard at 10%.
Now, that’s being a total dick move the Oilers can offer Bouchard 3M plus 1M in bonuses that will be easily hit.
Also, the Oilers played with 4 centres, it’s the wingers that would sit out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 16 h 16
Sujet:
being bold but realistic
A couple problems here.
You have no 4th line centre.
In my opinion you’ve given McLeod, Kostin and Bouchard too much money. One year deals or bonus structure the deal.
Kostin 1M
McLeod 1M
Bouchard 3M
That saves you 1.7M
Parayko contract is forever and a big man like that might break down soon, big risk.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 16 h 11
Sujet:
being bold but realistic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Hawks decline. With the acquisition of Hall and Foligno, Oilers are now sending a pick to Hawks to take Yamo.</div></div>
Nick Foligno plays LW as does Hall and Yamamoto plays RW.
Not that I’m advocating this trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 16 h 1
Sujet:
Karlsson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TySmith4Norris</b></div><div>Pens are in win now mode</div></div>
I get it, keeping the dream alive.
My comment was geared more towards every shark fan on here crapping on a legit trade.
To me that’s a lot to give up for Pitt
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 15 h 57
Sujet:
Karlsson
I don’t know why Pittsburg would do that.
Every sharks fan on here…..” No way, we don’t want first round picks, an NHL player, a better defensive Dman and a prospect, that’s just nonsense!”
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 3 h 24
Sujet:
Oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CheechYou</b></div><div>Sharks decline. Swap Broberg with Bouchard and bring down the retention to 2-3mil and SJ accepts.</div></div>
Insane request, why would the Oilers redo a trade Grier shot down?
SJ need to come to grips that EK contract is so bad it’s funny.
Furthermore, why would the Oilers trade within there division & give away cost control & 8 years of UFA status for an overaged Defencemen who can’t play defence. Oilers problem is SV% at 5v5 & scoring, trading for a leaky Dman was a bullet dodged by the Oilers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 3 h 12
Sujet:
Karlsson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian_O_Blivion</b></div><div>50% retention returns an elite prospect or a top 4 RHD in their prime or it doesn’t happen. Period. We need Bouchard or SJ walks. A 3x Norris winner coming off a legendary season for only 5750000 is robbery with this deal</div></div>
Let me start off by saying I personally don’t like this trade, SJ absolutely missed the boat with the Oilers trade request & they’re stuck wit a piss poor defence.
Having said that, Ceci plays 37% against elites about 5-7 minutes a game vs elite players automatically making him SJ second best defensive player & best RHD (Defensively)
Phillip Broberg is tracking as a top 4 Defender who plays both sides.
Also, you have no goalie……
The picks to me are ridiculous to give up to an overages player who can fall off a cliff at any minute.
Not only that, we have cost control on Bouchard for another 10 years, you have an overage player that makes 4M to much.
If I was a SJ fan the very thought of dumping that 11M contract would be paramount as an Oiler fan I’d keep both Ceci & Broberg before helping the SJ sharks out of a horrible contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2023 à 14 h 43
Sujet:
Matthews agrees to sign back home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lowblocksniper</b></div><div>I do think your scenario is much more likely
This is just a hypothetical
If you are going to get an Arena deal in Arizona, you'd need a Star like Matthews to get it done</div></div>
Hey! I’m one of the few who actually believes Matthews wants to go home.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2023 à 14 h 41
Sujet:
Open For Business
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JackSC87</b></div><div>Too close to the cap, and Connor Brown gets more than that.</div></div>
You understand that 1.5M in salary plus 1.5M in bonus structure that the player will hit is how the deal gets done.
Furthermore, Brown was just on Gazdic’s podcast where he said he wants to play with McDavid.
This deal is already done.
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