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Armchair-GM
15 août 2020 à 19 h 48
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Brodin Killorn Allen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>If you don’t already know how Wild fans feel about Domi for Brodin, you must be new around here...so, I’ll go easy on you. WE HATE the idea of Domi for Brodin because Brodin is a much, much better player!</div></div>
Okay fair enough. I'm not a huge Wild fan so good to know what they think. So honest question: who do most Wild fans have for picking up as a new centre? You obviously need one, so where are you hoping to get him? Who are the popular ones?
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2020 à 19 h 27
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Brodin Perron Allen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>You are really hung up on this Blues trade that is never going to happen. This notion that you get to fleece Perron and Allen both at a cut rate is not reality, man. Same with the idea that we must trade Perron.</div></div>
I did some more thinking and you're right. They can afford to keep Perron. I'm not hung up on it. I ran the scenario and it turns out I'm wrong. They can get rid of Sundqvist and Gunnarsson instead of Perron and make the numbers work. They do need to trade Allen though if they want to keep Pietrangelo and Dunn.
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2020 à 18 h 19
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Sergachev Perron Allen Vesalainen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Considering that Perron is a multiyear asset with a very affordable contract, I'd look to trade players like Sundqvist and Gunnarsson before him.
I'd also consider buying out Steen. That'll save them $2,5M which might become very important money for them.</div></div>
Okay good point. I just ran that scenario. You're right. They'd get rid of Sundqvist and Gunnarson before Perron. I'm wrong. Good point.
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2020 à 18 h 12
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Sergachev Kovalchuk Dumba
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>I don't mind any of these moves the issue comes next season when we need to sign a ton of guys</div></div>
Yeah I thought of that. That's the reason for going after Dumba. You'd have to lose Petry the next year but that's okay because Dumba would take his place instead and he just wouldn't be resigned with his contract up. Also, you'd let Kovalchuk walk and replace him with Caufield who's cheaper. Armia and Weal wouldn't all be resigned and you'd replace them with cheaper younger players.
I'm pretty confident you can still fit each of Tatar, Danault, Gallagher, Lehkonen, and Kotkaniemi with raises.
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2020 à 18 h 4
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Brodin Perron Allen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Paul13</b></div><div>I am a reformed man and now see the logic of trading Brodin for Domi. Wild could have a entire team of LW's it will be amazing and every GM will seek to mimic the build. Eventually in the year 2025 we will all look back at this Era of hockey as being primitive, it will, be great.</div></div>
He's not a LW, he's a Centre. Had 71 points as a full-time centre. Koivu's retiring soon and Staal won't be around for ever. The Wild need a centre; tell me where else you'll find one?
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2020 à 18 h 3
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Brodin Perron Allen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lebronisdagoat</b></div><div>why would the blues trade perron after he just had an allstar season?</div></div>
It's just math.
If the Blues are going to resign Pietrangelo and Dunn, they need to dump each of Bozak, Allen and Perron and they can't take on any more money other than minimum salary contracts. Not because they want to get rid of them but because they can't afford them in a flat cap world. They can afford to keep Perron if they want, but then they can't resign Dunn and he'd be picked up with an offer sheet.
So basically to dump Perron and Allen you need to do it just for draft picks or for super-low value contracts. Perron only has 2 years left on his deal and Allen only has 1 in a year where there's a huge market for goalies. Basically the Blues won't have a lot of options for takers for these players.
I totally agree it's low value for these players but seriously, what options do the Blues have? Do they really let Pietrangelo walk? Do they let Dunn get picked up on an offer sheet (when Perron will be gone in 2 years and is aging while Dunn is young and could be kept for many years)?
Tough decisions ahead for the Blues.
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Armchair-GM
15 août 2020 à 17 h 58
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Sergachev Perron Allen Vesalainen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>That is a weak offer for Perron.
Allen is not negative value either.</div></div>
I agree on both counts; you're right. But I don't know that the Blues are going to get much better deals; they're going to have to lose the value deal just to shed salary.
If the Blues are going to resign Pietrangelo and Dunn, they need to dump each of Bozak, Allen and Perron and they can't take on any more money other than minimum salary contracts. So basically to dump Perron and Allen you need to do it just for draft picks or for super-low value contracts. Perron only has 2 years left on his deal and Allen only has 1 in a year where there's a huge market for goalies. Basically the Blues won't have a lot of options for takers for these players in a flat salary cap world.
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Armchair-GM
13 août 2020 à 12 h 46
Sujet:
More under the radar Habs moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsForEver</b></div><div>Why would Montreal do this? I'd rather Kulak over Kylington and Armia is an important part of the bottom 6.</div></div>
I'm with you. Really confused by this deal. Mete is at least as good (if not better) than Kylington and is younger and more manageable contract-wise. You subtract a good player in Armia + a good pick to fill a position that isn't even a need. Very confused by this.
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Armchair-GM
12 août 2020 à 23 h 54
Sujet:
Lightning 2020-21 How to make it work under the flat cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jdecker92</b></div><div>I could realistically see him taking a 2 or 3 year deal at 4.5-5 mil per, the Lightning should be out of cap trouble by then.</div></div>
It'd be interesting to see if he does. If he does, then that'd be killer for the Bolts; heaps of sacrifices for the team. Wish there were more of that from other teams.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 août 2020 à 17 h 43
Sujet:
Lightning 2020-21 How to make it work under the flat cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jdecker92</b></div><div>And I think he will take a hometown discount just like every player here has before. He realizes his best chance to win is here, as compared to other teams that could maybe afford him. Just look at last offseason, Point rejected an offer-sheet from Montreal in order to stay with Tampa. I think Sergy will do the same.</div></div>
You might be right. But that'd be some discount. We're talking 50% off. At least Point only signed a 3 year deal. Sergachev would be turning down like 5-7 years (whichever he prefers) and a heck of a lot more money.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 août 2020 à 15 h 26
Sujet:
Lightning 2020-21 How to make it work under the flat cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jdecker92</b></div><div>I'd rather keep Sergachev than Cirelli. We are already loaded with forwards who can play center, with more coming in the pipeline. Sergy is a future elite D-man that you need to keep at all costs.</div></div>
If I were the Bolts I'd rather keep Sergachev than Cirelli also. Problem is that they can't afford to keep him. Check out my other post and you'll see why. The math just doesn't work unless Sergachev takes a massive hometown discount (even more of a discount than Point did).
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Armchair-GM
12 août 2020 à 13 h 49
Sujet:
Lightning 2020-21 How to make it work under the flat cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bdawwwgy1</b></div><div>grant aint taking that</div></div>
I don't care if he takes it not. Point is how do the Lightning get everyone in under the cap? If not Grant then they'll either need to get rid of Cirelli as well (which I'm sure isn't what they want) or find some other cheap veterans for minimum contracts. If it's not Grant (you're probably right, they probably can't sign for that), then it'll be someone else taking a major discount.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 août 2020 à 13 h 47
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Ehlers Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>It's a fleecing in that Mete is a bottom pairing guy and a 3rd isn't much, so they aren't meaningful additions when you are asking for a 1st line winger.
Domi is an okay option if nothing else is available, but he's poor defensively and can force his way to UFA in two years if he wishes, so far from ideal. Domi would be fine, but he doesn't justify or require the Jets putting any of our top 5 on the line for.</div></div>
While I'm a Habs fan first I'm also a really big Jets fan. Honest reality is that there aren't a lot of options available right now on the market for young-ish centres that can put up points. I know some people have floated the idea of just making Wheeler a full-time C. That could work but would probably be disappointing. Anyway, we'll see what happens.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 août 2020 à 12 h 24
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Ehlers Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No, it's a slam dunk win for Montreal and an outright fleecing to the Jets. Winnipeg would not consider it.</div></div>
Again, I agree that Ehlers is better than Domi. I'm not disagreeing with that. But seriously, do you need Centres or Wingers more in Winnipeg? You've got to pay Roslovic and Vesalainen is coming up. You already have Connor, Laine and Wheeler. Little is unreliable. If the Jets didn't think they needed Centres, then why did they go for Statsny for a 1st? Why did they go for Hayes for a 1st? Why did they pick up an under-performing Eakin?
...and while I agree, Ehlers is better than Domi, look at the last 5 years of play: Domi PPG = .67, Ehlers PPG = .70. Plus the Habs would throw in more pieces here and Domi would be cheaper than Ehlers. How is that a fleecing?
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Armchair-GM
11 août 2020 à 23 h 45
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Ehlers Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>"You have to sign Pietrangelo" ... says who? He would've been signed by now if we had to. Probably wants too much money. Personally I think Dunn will have a contract before he is even eligible for an OS. He doesnt have much leverage to be holding out for big money. No arb rights and his low ice time kept his stat line suppressed.</div></div>
Fair enough. If you want to see him walk good luck.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2020 à 23 h 44
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Ehlers Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>willinlisbon</b></div><div>I see no reason why WPG needs to make that trade?
I'm a CH fan, and would love to have Ehljers on the roster but the simple matter is that WPG doesn't need to shed salary, doesn't have a need for Domi or Mete (who are both RFA's) traded for a proven top 6 winger who's signed long term.
Also, why sign THomposon when we have Evans and Poehling in the fold.
Don't need Greiss, we have Lindgren and Primeau in the fold who are more than capable of backing up Price - only reason why Lindgren didn't get the shot this past season was because MB went out and signed Kinkaid or else he would have been back up from the start.
Dunn is a good OS but you'll need to offer WAYYYY more than that and if that's the case may as well OS Sergachev.</div></div>
I'd prefer Sergachev than Dunn but the Habs can't afford both Ehlers and Sergachev. They can afford both Ehlers and Dunn.
As for it not being enough for Dunn, maybe they can offer more but I'm not sure that the Blues could even match $4.5M without it being a real problem for them. They'd need to dump Bozak, Allen and Perron to keep Dunn at $4.5M and also sign Pietrangelo. That's a huge sacrifice when you consider that they already have a stacked D even without Dunn.
As for why Winnipeg would want Domi; maybe they don't. I don't know. What I do know is they want better centres. That's for sure. Tell me who they can go out and get instead without giving up value?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2020 à 23 h 40
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Ehlers Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Domi and Mere aren't worth giving up Ehlers for.</div></div>
I agree Ehlers is better. The thing is though...the Jets need centres and d-men, and they have too many wingers as it is. There's definitely tradeoffs here, but it is a win-win.
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Armchair-GM
11 août 2020 à 23 h 38
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Ehlers Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>They aren't close to full NTC's, and Army is a bit of a wizard. And frankly, we might even let Petro walk before we part with Dunn. But yeah, you might need to up the $ anwyay if you hope to convince Dunn to leave the Blues. I doubt that gets it done for a five-year deal.</div></div>
Sure man. If you want to overpay Dunn and let Pietrangelo walk good luck. But actually look at your contracts. Perron and Bozak are M-NTC. The rest either have a full NTC or there's no way you'd ever move them (e.g., Schwartz or Parayko aren't going to be traded). So basically if you're Doug Armstrong your options are:
1. Let Pietrangelo walk
2. Assuming letting him walk is a terrible idea, find takers at pennies on the dollar for each of Perron, Bozak and Allen. Now, Bozak is overpaid and Allen isn't going to be a #1 anywhere anymore, so he's also overpaid as a backup. That means you're giving up assets just to get rid of them. Okay sure, you do that. That leaves Perron. Perron is a great player at a great price. If you want to pay Dunn at 4.5 or 5, sure, you can afford it if you get rid of Perron, Bozak and Allen, but that's a steep price to pay when you already have a lot of money in your RDs. Let's say you do it and you're can pay Dunn. Sure. Then the next year with a flat salary cap, even with Steen coming off the books you still can't afford to pay Robert Thomas and Binnington big raises.
Bottom line is yes, you're right. They can match and still keep Pietrangelo. However, that's a big price to pay to not be able to be sure you can pay Binnington and Thomas the next year.
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Armchair-GM
11 août 2020 à 20 h 50
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Ehlers Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I'm not sure Dunn even signs that... but we'd find a way to match.</div></div>
How do you match it? You've got heaps of NTCs on people like Steen and Bozak and you have to sign Pietrangelo. Let's say I'm low-balling it and it needs more money...Habs can afford it but Blues can't.
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Armchair-GM
9 août 2020 à 11 h 25
Sujet:
Oilers side of a Habs trade
I like it if it works. Not sure Edmonton passes on Laffy even if they need the depth (which I agree with).
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Fauteuil - DG
9 août 2020 à 11 h 9
Sujet:
trade oilers
I like idea but the numbers don't work. Drouin = $5.5M + Domi = (at least) $5M. Even if you take out Athanasiou and Nurse the Oilers can't afford that.
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Armchair-GM
8 août 2020 à 16 h 44
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Sergachev Kunin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BorisBagel66</b></div><div>Wild add a1 st, Habs add Weal</div></div>
So you're saying it's basically Kunin + 1st for Domi + Weal? So Kunin is a first and Domi has 2 years before UFA. You're saying 2 1st for Domi + Weal? I don't think Minnesota would go for that.
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Armchair-GM
8 août 2020 à 16 h 25
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Sergachev Vesalainen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DriveFor25</b></div><div>MTL can get more</div></div>
From who? No one will who can afford Domi will want him other than Minnesota and the Jets. You think they'd give more than Veselainen, who's first round pick?
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Armchair-GM
8 août 2020 à 16 h 24
Sujet:
Habs 2020-21 Sergachev Roslovic
I definitely agree that Domi's better than Roslovic. As I look it, however, I think that Domi's probably out after this season from the Habs after how they've played him in the playoffs. That means if you look at teams that can actually afford to sign him and that really need a #2C, it's basically Minnesota and Winnipeg. If you look at the Winnipeg roster, it's basically wingers that the Habs need and the Jets aren't going to be willing to give up Ehlers (obviously Laine, Connor and Wheeler are untouchables even if you sweeten the deal for Domi with picks). This leaves Roslovic or Veselainen and since they're both younger and have more years under control, and since Domi only has 2 years left before UFA, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Having said that; I do agree Domi's better than Roslovic and even as you project out.
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Armchair-GM
19 juill. 2020 à 1 h 27
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Singing the over CAPped Blues
Steen has an NTC; he's not leaving.
Bozak has a modified NTC, and so I can't see him wanting to waive it to go to Detroit.
Might work as a salary dump if you find another taker for Bozak...
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