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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 22 h 6
Sujet:
Full Montreal rebuild.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>I like this more than your previous one. It's a faster rebuild.
A few things: You're about $6M below the salary floor, so you could probably keep some degree of respectability with a couple of veteran signings. I know you want to go to the cellar in this plan, but if you don't give your team a chance to win at least some games, you create a Quebec Nordiques culture where they don't even try and forget how to compete.</div></div>
I want this team to finish bottom 5 again next year and bottom 10 the 2 following years, while accumulating more draft picks.
Bergevin is definitely not the guy for a rebuild, give one more year to Julien and let him go. Bring a coach that wants to play his nest players at the right position and proper ice time.
Unfortunately, they will need to sign a veteran center like Bozak or Stastny for 2 years max though. This team cant go and throw crazy money and terms to 3rd liners or bottom pairing dmen.
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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 17 h 20
Sujet:
Pacioretty NOT moved.. and lottery WON. NO JT.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Alzner at 3 mil per is very good, add that you are taking Orpik and having 2.5+ cap space for next year.
I actually think that Shaw and Perreault's value are in the same region. Perreault is offensive C who would put up points in MTL's top-6 and Shaw is player that you can look up to and he will find another shift in his game. In the playoffs he is flying out there, hitting guys, playing sneaky game and scoring goals. I think their value is the same. The point with Jets giving up 2nd is that they won't retain any salary and Shaw will be retained. This will help MTL get more picks and WPG with their cap situation not this summer but next summer when they would be resigning Wheeler and Laine. They would have 1.625 mil plus to cap space and with cap raising constantly Shaw would more and more be a bargain at 2.5 per.</div></div>
Shaw as had too many concussion to have any kind of value.
Washington isnt giving a pick for Alzner
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 17 h 18
Sujet:
Summer trading days
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Here's a quick sampling of some pretty successful teams over the last 25 years: St. Louis = 9 playoff series won; San Jose = 11 series; Chicago (with a first and a third overall) = 14 series; Philly = 9 series; Rangers = 11 series.
Pittsburgh, at 25, is the only outlier. Guess why? Lemieux (#1 overall), Craig Simpson (#2 overall), Zalapski (#4) Chris Joseph (#5), Darrin Shannon (#4 overall) Jagr (#5); Whitney (#5) Fleury (#1), Malkin (#2 overall), Crosby (#1) and Staal (#2). See a pattern?
Wait, there's more. The Penguins had to twice be bailed out by the league because their fan bases quit on them and the team was effectively bankrupt. Three times, people have tried to move the franchise. I don't think Montreal fans are willing to suck that badly for that long. And, in the era of the lottery (another useless addition courtesy of the NBA), there's no guarantee that sucking does you any good, right Edmonton, AZ, Carolina, Islanders...?</div></div>
I am fine to suck for another 3 years and rebuild. At least this is a plan. Making the playoffs with a shitty team because anything can happen isn't a plan.
We won 9 series in the last 25 years. Pittsburgh as won 26 series in that timespawn. I will take the Penguins road to success anytime before our stupid backward way of doing things.
28th overall
Shutout 10+ times ahahah
Not a single player in the top 100
Price at 10.5mil for 8 years ahahah
Bergevin a french speaking GM because is a pre requisite in Montreal and he cant even speak french properly.
This organization as become a joke and you are supporting it.
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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 16 h 57
Sujet:
Major D help
Weber will look good in New Jersey. Make an offer.
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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 16 h 57
Sujet:
Pacioretty NOT moved.. and lottery WON. NO JT.
Perrault value is higher than Shaw and Jets are giving a 2nd on top.
You are asking Washington to give us a 3rd for taking Alzner.
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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 16 h 45
Sujet:
Summer trading days
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Prior to this season, the Habs has been in the playoffs 8 out of the last 10 years. There were only two teams with better records: Pittsburgh and Chicago, both of which had plumbed the depths for several years and had #1 overalls. So, as records go, the Habs have done more with less than almost any team in the league.
Again, prior to this season, the Habs last five seasons managed 103, 82, 110, 100 and 107 (prorated due to lockout) points. The 82 was when Price missed most of the season with the bum knee. I am sorry, that IS a successful team by any reasonable standards.
Finally, the Habs started the season with an average age of 26.8. The league average is 27.1. There are only 8 teams that are younger and only 3 of them made the playoffs.
<a href="https://theathletic.com/210035/2018/01/12/sizing-up-the-nhl-2017-18-nhl-teams-by-age-height-and-weight/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://theathletic.com/210035/2018/01/12/sizing-up-the-nhl-2017-18-nhl-teams-by-age-height-and-weight/</a>
Do they need to get better? Sure. Is the sky falling in Montreal? No.</div></div>
Please! A legit top contender team doesnt finish 28th overall.
Montreal as won 9 playoffs series in the last 25 years, so about 1 every 3 years. Long live mediocrity right.
And hooray for division championships right? Scoring 11 goals last year's playoffs against thw Rangers, a team anyone would beat except us. What a great team the Montreal Canadiens.
Who cares about the age of the team if our players suck and our core is getting older and regressing.
What's with all those excuses. Is that you Marc??
We ******* sucks! We should consider ourselves lucky we play in the worst division in hockey.
The standing shows it
The AHL shows it
Our prospect pool shows it
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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 15 h 31
Sujet:
New Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herms17</b></div><div>I know MTL will keep the picks and I kind of hope they do just to restock the farm, but I would have no issue with trading 2 2nds for ellis. and instead of Joulson, I would put mete in. MTL has been very patient with Joulson so i would be beside myself for allowing them to develop him the right way to trade him away. I would make the 2nds MTLs(probably a 34th, so basically a late first in my mind) and the Chi 2nd. would be in the late 30s still.</div></div>
Why would Ellis extend with us?
There are much better teams.
Like i said Ellis wont go for 2 2nds. You are looking at at least a 1st, a 2nd and very good prospect.
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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 14 h 44
Sujet:
New Team
I think Ellis goes for more than 2 2nds, add Juulsen for sure.
Montreal will keep all their picks this year unless its the 5th.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 13 h 33
Sujet:
Summer trading days
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>We don't suck. Habs might. I am sure you're a fine individual, so whatever the fate of the hockey team we cheer for, there's no "we" there.
First thing everyone needs to remember is that no team -- NO TEAM -- can succeed when more than 1/4 of its payroll is in the sick bay. So this year was a write off from the start when Price was ill and Weber got hurt.
Second: with a 100-year-old Markov and a drunk Radulov slotted in, people had the Habs as a potential contender going into last summer. Granted, that had Sergachev in the mix, too, but he was not going to be a difference maker to last year's Habs. So, as much as you want to crap on this team, what has changed in terms of personnel was Markov and Radulov. That was the difference. Which is to say don't discount the value of one good day of shopping for UFAs (and it doesn't have to John Tavares). James Neal and Riley Nash might be all that's needed.
As for the core of the Habs, I am also a lot less pessimistic.
Out back, actually, I think they're a year or two away from having one of the better mobile defences in the NHL. Mete, Juulsen and Reilly are a good base and Weber still has a lot of good year in the tank. If any of Brook, Fleury, Walstrom or Staum work out decently, the D is pretty strong.
Now, if you believe Price is washed up after one bad year, so be it. I don't. Brodeur and Roy both won two Stanley Cups in their 30s. Does he need to be better? Absolutely. Will he? I'd put money on it.
Which brings things us to the forwards: Drouin and Galchenyuk are fierce and still young. Gallagher had a great year, probably better than he should, but is still a great performer. Lehkonen and Danault are decent NHLers on any club in the league. Pacioretty is still a very good player, though I do accept he's likely worth more to another team than to Montreal these days, so best get what you can for him in the pick/prospect world.</div></div>
We havent won anything with solid young core of Price, Subban, Markov, Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Plekanec we are definitely not winning with this rotten core. 28th overall, Laval dead last in the AHL. 28th in prospects ranking.
What else do you need to know.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 13 h 29
Sujet:
Summer trading days
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>So by this theory, WTF would you trade for any of that garbage you've added in like Andy MacDonald, Thomas Greiss, Andrew Ladd, Dale Weiss..... Just get the most picks possible. Why would you choose to suck with no hopers?
Also, before you drink too far from the Kool-Aid of building through the draft, let's visit the success rates of the teams that have consistently drafted at or near the top of the draft: Edmonton, Phoenix, Buffalo and Carolina. They suck and have sucked for a very long time. When you have nothing but young, coke-snorting kids on your roster and no experienced pros, you keep getting lazy, underachieving teams with no resilience. If we're going to suck, I'd rather do it with players who don't feel they're just rentals.</div></div>
Because we are doing so much better with Weber, Price and Pacioretty as our core right. We need to take salary back for Price and Weber and their value isnt great anymore but we need to blow this thing up
2 bottom 10 finish in 3 years, 1 playoffs series win the last 4 years and this is Bergevin.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 12 h 49
Sujet:
Summer trading days
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>This was last summer!! Look how Colorado did this year? Do you think the results would be the same today? Boston is down there. So is New Jersey. It's a totally useless and unscientific survey of Toronto fans.</div></div>
People need to stop quoting Bergevin. The guy is an idiot. I dont care about Colorado and Boston as a crazy good core, Montreal doesn't.
We finished 28th overall while going 11-1 against our division, tje worst in the league.
We suck man its time to face it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 12 h 15
Sujet:
Summer trading days
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Going for five lottery picks in a row?
Habs don't need a dozen players, they need 3-4 really good ones. Sam Pollock's Rule #1 for trades: Get The Best Player. Not one of the players coming in is better than the ones you're giving up.</div></div>
<a href="http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/front-office-confidence-rankings-part-2-fans-weigh-in-on-how-each-team-is-doing" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/front-office-confidence-rankings-part-2-fans-weigh-in-on-how-each-team-is-doing</a>
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Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 12 h 12
Sujet:
Summer trading days
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Going for five lottery picks in a row?
Habs don't need a dozen players, they need 3-4 really good ones. Sam Pollock's Rule #1 for trades: Get The Best Player. Not one of the players coming in is better than the ones you're giving up.</div></div>
You draft good players, nobody is going to gift them to you unless you are dumbass Bergevin.
Montreal needs to rebuild, not retool or try to go all in with a shitty team. Fans need to het this in their head.
Montreal sucks and will for a long time.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 avr. 2018 à 2 h 59
Sujet:
Necessary Montreal rebuild.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gm_jeanguy</b></div><div>All I'm saying is that McCagg's points are valid. Of course, one could conclude that Timmins and his staff don't know what they're doing when you realize that Mtl missed on O'Reilly, Kuznetsov, Kucherov, etc. What McCagg is bringing back to our memory is that 28 other teams ignored them too when they had a chance to draft them. Does that mean that 95% of the pro scouts in the NHL are a bunch of incompetents?</div></div>
Enough with the excuses!
It's been 6 years!
6 years!
Montreal is 2-3 years behind every teams in the league in drafting. Placing intangibles ahead of skill, talent and hockey IQ.
Trading 2 very good 2nd round picks for Shaw was brutal, a 4th for King, a 4th for Benn, a 6th for Ott and a 6th for Nesterov is not helping either.
I am not even going to touch player development.
Molson and the owners should be ashamed and the fans are putting up with the fucked up bullshit.
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Armchair-GM
24 avr. 2018 à 11 h 43
Sujet:
Necessary Montreal rebuild.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gm_jeanguy</b></div><div>You should read posts by Grant McCagg on Recrutes.ca
<a href="https://recrutes.ca/habs-drafting-since-2012-good-average-barren/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://recrutes.ca/habs-drafting-since-2012-good-average-barren/</a>
Perhaps that'll change your appreciation of Timmins' work</div></div>
McCagg!?!?!?
McCagg!!!!!
McCagg???
Holy **** McCagg ahahahahahahah.
Is that your argument, your hockey knowledge reference?
The guy as absolutely no credibility and he's making a fool of himself on Twitter. **** McCagg!
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Armchair-GM
24 avr. 2018 à 0 h 57
Sujet:
Necessary Montreal rebuild.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>Trust in Timmons he's in year 1 of rebuilding a 6 year mess by Larry Carriere .
that being said the moves he's made have eclipsed everything Larry did in his entire tenure (which he busted 3 First Rounders and Mccarron i would be bold enough to say )
guys like Poehling ,Evans ,Bitten ,Pazetta ,Fleury ,Primeau ,Vdjemo are all on pace with their development expectations with most exceeding them especially Evans,Fleury and Primeau
add Rychel and Valiev to the mix and i already see a signifigant change</div></div>
Aren't Montreal 28th in prospects ranking? How is this a good job, I laugh when i see names like Audette and Verbeek, those guys are 3rd line forwards at best. What we need a top legit talent with skills and hockey IQ. Not Poehling and McCarron. What have our last 10 1st round picks produce? Galchenyuk is the only regular roster player we drafted in the 1st round the last 10 years. You can add Drouin but he wasn't a necessity.
Reality is that we suck at drafting and Timmins is part of the problem. Everybody needs to get the **** out.
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Armchair-GM
23 avr. 2018 à 23 h 16
Sujet:
Necessary Montreal rebuild.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>i'm a big Allen Fan , he's the only NB born players in the NHL with PHI having the other one a Prospect Myers as well as Couturier raised and living in NB where his father is Junior hockey in Bathurst.
the only reason i'd want allen is to flip him to PHI as our Goalie depth is fine with Niemi helping Lindgren Start. we got 2 of the top NCAA Goalies in Hawkey and Primeau with 2 long term projects in Fucale and Mcniven of which one has to go come summer as they are hurting eachothers development . Adding a goalie let alone 2 makes no sense unless we collapse our entire goalie system which is the only productive thing we have.
Case and point last year 3 of Price's Backups/prospects beneath him in MTL beat him in a variety of NHL Goalie Rankings including Shutouts .
Budaj,Condon and Dubnyk all from MTL's system. Lindgren's stats only get better at each level he hits and the AHL only having 1 D regular in Lernout over 2 years hurt but still if you look at the game by game when he won he didnt let much by him but when they lost it was like 3-0, 4-1 or 5-0 as an injured MTL took what few talented players we had infront of him and left him with a team most wouldnt skate in the ECHL. that being said this year Timmons in year one on the job has rebooted out AHL system as much as possible with the limited re-sources we got , with MB's ear as #2 guy now he got depth guys like Reilly ,Valiev , Rychel ,Cracknell,and has signed Verbeek UFA ,Bitten ,Pezetta and Evans from or drafted prospects for Laval next year if not MTL if they have a good camp
my point is simple if MTL wipes the slate clean on the goaltending machine that is MTL Molson might as well sell because the fans will 100% without a shadow of a doubt burn his brewery to the ground when Price wins the cup in STL and we miss the playoffs with a tandem STL couldnt succeed with</div></div>
Molson letting Bergevin still be a GM will results in longer years of mediocrity. There is no fixing this team without a full and complete rebuild. I dont care what the players traded do on their new team anymore. What i care is getting tons of assets and move forward.
We are not winning the cup with this core.
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Armchair-GM
23 avr. 2018 à 21 h 12
Sujet:
2018-2019
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>math731</b></div><div>Except the NYI 1st and Bellows, there's no quality pieces coming MTL way in this deal. We can't trade our 3 best players if we're not receiving at the very least 3 young top prospects and top 15 picks.</div></div>
You have Aho, Bellows and Soderstrom as your top prospects, Dal Colle might breakthrough. Greiss will be retained and traded in 2 years for picks. This year's Islanders 1st is a top 10 pick. Defensemen Robin Salo could go Montreal way.
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Armchair-GM
21 avr. 2018 à 23 h 9
Sujet:
Montreal - N.Y. Islanders
I added Brock Nelson and a Calgary 2018 2nd going to Montreal.
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Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2018 à 10 h 8
Sujet:
Montreal full rebuild
You guys are as depressing as this team:p
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Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2018 à 1 h 59
Sujet:
Off-season moves and signings Wishlist
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jhook1</b></div><div>gotta admit tho it is a pretty good looking team</div></div>
Well...
Not sure Detroit does the trade.
Montreal can get more for Pacioretty retained at 50% and/or extended.
Carlson signs for more than 6.5mil. I say close to 7.5mil. He was making 4mil for the last 6 years, he's breaking the bank on July 1st.
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Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2018 à 1 h 49
Sujet:
Off-season moves and signings Wishlist
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jhook1</b></div><div>lol salt</div></div>
? No doubt about it!
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Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2018 à 1 h 46
Sujet:
Off-season moves and signings Wishlist
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jhook1</b></div><div>lmao do you even know who the kid is? I said decent not top prospect</div></div>
Not interested then. I am sure you can find your guy somewhere else.
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Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2018 à 1 h 22
Sujet:
Off-season moves and signings Wishlist
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jhook1</b></div><div>I put Brown in there as a sign and trade and welinski is a decent D prospect that Montreal could use</div></div>
No he is not. Mahura, Morand or Comtois.
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Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2018 à 0 h 45
Sujet:
Huge deals.
Montreal as enough bottom 6 players.
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