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Forum: Armchair-GM11 déc. 2023 à 7 h 33
Forum: Armchair-GM11 déc. 2023 à 7 h 24
Sujet: Sens Add Fabbro
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>I've yet to see a compelling argument about why Ottawa shouldn't just keep him as the 3LD. He's an above average 3rd pair defenseman. He looks great when he plays with anyone other than Hamonic. The two biggest concerns on the blueline are Hamonic being a waste of a roster space and Chabot being cursed by a witch to never be healthy.</div></div>

Come playoff time I can't see him being effective. I understand all the underlying numbers says he's doing a great job and that's admirable. But personally, I would rather the bottom D man not make $2 mil, so he's not really paid like the average 3LD to start with. I think he's super talented and a great, likeable kid. Nothing against him other than he needs to be playing in a top 4 role w PP time and that doesn't exist for him here -- for his own sake we should move him. Kleven is like a year away from being the perfect option there. Just my thoughts, compelling to you or not. I have to agree Hammer is by far the biggest issue but PD made him virtually un movable so I ignore it.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 déc. 2023 à 11 h 31
Sujet: Philly rumors reported from the offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>Are you comparing Brannstrom and Mete? Mete had a decent start in Montreal but as of now, Brannstrom is much much better...

Frost being 17th OA doesn't mean anything today. Draft position only last the first few years for a prospect then it's out of the door completely.</div></div>

First off, JBD was drafted in the first round just one year later after Frost and you can bet that is the only thing keeping him in the lineup (he just scored his first ever last night, albeit a pretty nice one). It doesn't go out the door *completely*.

Secondly, I'm not sure where you lie on the Branny fandom spectrum but statistically Branny is marginally better than Mete while maybe being even smaller physically. I stand by that being a decent comparison to make my point. They need to move him before his value (based completely on the hope that in a top 4 role / PP time he will get points) hits zero. The thing is the fit has to be right, not every team would take calls on him, like I'm guessing torts wouldn't throw him in his lineup.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 déc. 2023 à 11 h 23
Sujet: Philly rumors reported from the offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>It was also "reported" that we were going to trade a 1st WITH Joseph to move his contract. It was also reported that Scott freaking Laughton was worth a 1st++

Don't mind this stuff. No way anyone with a hockey brain would trade Pinto for Frost.

Walker could make sense but I'd prefer someone with term and more defensive</div></div>

Yeah hear me out here man. The report of Joseph and a first would have been what Philly was asking for, clearly no hockey mind worth their salt would do that. BUT it shows the intentions of the team their trading with. Reports of a Pinto for Frost swap just goes to show who is on the trading block for that team. I'm aware that nobody would make that swap nor should they. However in both situation I do mind these reports because they're pretty indicative-- to all of us who are not hockey trade insiders-- how these calls are going.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 déc. 2023 à 22 h 13
Sujet: Philly rumors reported from the offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fergy22</b></div><div>Ottawa needs bottom 6 veteran forwards who play well in all 3 zones. I don’t get to see Philly play much but there has to be a reason Tortorella does not lean on Frost ….work ethic, grit , defensive responsibility?
Ottawa has the same D needs as almost every other team , a RHD , Walker ticks that box. He will be in demand.</div></div>

I feel that the Flyers have a surprisingly deep forward core when you really start to look at it. Plus with Torts I'm sure its not hard to lose his trust, I couldn't imagine the current sens roster playing for him, our whole bench would be watching from the presser lol.

Frost is a guy known to be on the block that would be a decent fit with our style. I liked him a lot in his draft year, good Canadian kid. Currently listed 6ft 195lbs. Cherry picking some stats here, but he's a plus 2 in 15 games this season.

But I whole heartedly agree with you in that Ottawa needs another Giroux type, a vet who plays all 3 zones. I would love to hear of some potential guys that teams are known to be taking calls on.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 déc. 2023 à 21 h 54
Sujet: Philly rumors reported from the offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>Walker is UFA after the end of the season, his value as a rental is not much more than Kubalik so let's say Kubalik + 4th

So that would mean 1st + JBD for Morgan Frost...

Problem is that 2024 1st is unknown and could land just about anywhere. It would need to be Boston's 1st and Walker would need to come with a reasonable extension for me to accept

But seriously, we don't really need Frost that much (once both Pinto and Greig are in the lineup, plus there's Jarventie and Ostapchuk developing in the AHL)


It was also "reported" that we were going to trade a 1st WITH Joseph to move his contract. It was also reported that Scott freaking Laughton was worth a 1st++

Don't mind this stuff. No way anyone with a hockey brain would trade Pinto for Frost.

Walker could make sense but I'd prefer someone with term and more defensive</div></div>

Well said, I agree with most things here. But my idea was the first was due to all that retained salary, which Philly is one of the few teams in the NHL that could actually afford. Plus, everybody knows walker will be in high demand at the TDL, so if he were to come here earlier with an extension his price will be high too. I tossed up the idea of Branny to avoid a retention spot but I'm not sure he would be a fit there at all (they have a similar small guy in Mete bouncing up and down between the farm already). And hey if JBD is avoidable that would be even better.

Also Frost was like a 17th overall in his draft. He's one of the few guys with upside this time of year that is actually known to be on the trading block. You can't really hit every box with these trades or else they wouldn't be dealt in the first place. Frost could help the team in the very short term, letting those guys you mentioned develop even longer which never hurts.

I look at a trade right now as a way to help save the season before Pinto returns and make the post for once. And if Pinto does in fact take his QO, and both those Philly salaries are retained at 50%, you can see that the dollars work out to have an extra FWD and D every night. A lot of ifs, but it makes the teams chances of finally making it into the first round better.
Forum: Armchair-GM4 déc. 2023 à 14 h 53