What should have gone down...

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Créé par: JimCarrey

Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 14 nov. 2017

Publié: 14 nov. 2017

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

When Demers was a free agent last summer, I thought it was a no-brainer that the Leafs should try to sign him. After he signed for $4.5 for 5 years, I thought maybe the Leafs were weary to give an older Dman that money and term. Then after Arizona traded McGinn for him (and got Florida to retain salary) I thought again the Leafs missed out.

Demers is a Right shot, Defensively sound Veteran...Exactly what the Leafs need. Surely the Leafs could have put a better package together than McGinn (with all of our surplus on the wing)

Babcock has made it clear he want another D who can play on the PK (seeing as only Hainsey, Zaitsev and Rielly play on the PK)

With regards to 5v5, you could play him with Gardiner (as a safety net) or drop to the 3rd pairing with Borgman (would be a great partner to learn with)

I know, I know, hindsight is 20/20... but even at the time I thought this could have been the man to go after....What are your thoughts?

Transactions

TOR

Demers, Jason

Détails additionnels:

From Florida (before Arizona acquires him)

ARI

Leivo, Josh
Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

Surely this is a better package than Jamie McGinn

Rachats de contrats

Tim Gleason: 1 333 333 $
Jared Cowen: 750 000 $
Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Enfoui

Eric Fehr: 975 000 $ (2 000 000 $)
Martin Marincin: 225 000 $ (1 250 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2018
2019
2020

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	75 000 000 $	72 415 833 $	5 370 000 $	5 525 000 $	2 584 167 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 850 000 $$3M) C UFA - 2	Nylander, William 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD UFA - 1
Marleau, Patrick 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 3	Kadri, Nazem 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C UFA - 5	Komarov, Leo 2 950 000 $2 950 000 $ AD, AG, C UFA - 1
	Bozak, Tyler 4 200 000 $4 200 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD UFA - 2
van Riemsdyk, James 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Moore, Dominic 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Brown, Connor 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Martin, Matt 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3		Soshnikov, Nikita 736 666 $736 666 $ (125 000 $$125K) AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Hainsey, Ron 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 4
Gardiner, Jake 4 050 000 $4 050 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Demers, Jason 3 937 500 $3 937 500 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	McElhinney, Curtis 850 000 $850 000 $ G UFA - 2
Borgman, Andreas 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 2	Zaitsev, Nikita 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 7
Polák, Roman 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Carrick, Connor 750 000 $750 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Lupul, Joffrey 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Brown, C.		Matthews, A.		Marleau, P.
	Gardiner, J.		Nylander, W.

Avantage numérique 2
Bozak, T.		Kadri, N.		van Riemsdyk, J.
	Rielly, M.		Marner, M.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Kadri, N.	Komarov, L.
	Hainsey, R.	Zaitsev, N.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Hyman, Z.	Brown, C.
	Rielly, M.	Demers, J.

14 nov. 2017 à 12 h 43

palhal

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I guess Florida would prefer to have him on Western Conference team than a Atlantic playoff competitor. Apparently Demers has not being playing well in Arizona (subject to further checking). Do the Leafs really want him playing to the to age of almost 35 as a Leaf? I just don't think the Leafs would have offered him a five year contract. Right or wrong the Leafs went with one veteran Hainsey, and two youngish maybees...Borgman and Rosen during the offseason. Leafs probably went shorter term route in Hainsey, hoping Dermot, Nielsen, Borgman, Rosen, Liligren (at least some of them) will be ready within two years.

14 nov. 2017 à 13 h 13

JimCarrey

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I suppose your right with the long term uncertainty... but you cannot say he is having a bad year. He has 8 points in 19 games, on the worst team in hockey. he has a +1 rating, and good GF% and CF% if your into advanced stats... Now he is playing with OEL, but I think playing on a better team, with a worse partner would cancel each other out.

And about trading to a division rival...maybe your right... I don't like that logic, but thats just my oppinion

14 nov. 2017 à 13 h 19

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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Jim thanks for update on Demers stats. I'm with you, I'm not really believer voiding trading to a rival. If it helps your team that all that matters. If memory serves me correctly, Demers had a NMC and had to approve a trade to Arizona. So maybe the Leafs never had a chance any way. He only wanted a guaranteed long term deal, and maybe you wanted to stay in the US. One thing about Arizona which Shane Doan liked, he didn't wear out your body when he never or rarely played hockey past April 10.

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