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Créé par: PodGoalzin99
Équipe: 2024-25 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2024
Publié: 17 juin 2024
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  1. Karlsson, William
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17 juin à 4 h 23
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This is such a bad trade! Marner is elite, All alone he gets a better haul!
17 juin à 4 h 35
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This is such a bad trade! Marner is elite, All alone he gets a better haul!


troll? marner likely will barley get theo + roy let alone theo + willy + a 2nd. marner is elite but nobody wants him. hes a pending UFA whos going to be looking for 12-13m and he doesnt pref in the playoffs. nobody wants to spend elite assets for 1 year of someone who only helps u in the regular season before he either cap holds ur team down or walks in FA
17 juin à 5 h 14
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Quoting: colby
troll? marner likely will barley get theo + roy let alone theo + willy + a 2nd. marner is elite but nobody wants him. hes a pending UFA whos going to be looking for 12-13m and he doesnt pref in the playoffs. nobody wants to spend elite assets for 1 year of someone who only helps u in the regular season before he either cap holds ur team down or walks in FA


Nobody wants him?...What are you smoking? He's 1+ P/GP in the regular season & .88 P/GP in the playoffs! Give your head a shake!
17 juin à 8 h 39
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Quoting: colby
troll? marner likely will barley get theo + roy let alone theo + willy + a 2nd. marner is elite but nobody wants him. hes a pending UFA whos going to be looking for 12-13m and he doesnt pref in the playoffs. nobody wants to spend elite assets for 1 year of someone who only helps u in the regular season before he either cap holds ur team down or walks in FA


Marner isnt going anywhere without an extension. So that conversation is moot.
17 juin à 9 h 35
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Nobody wants him?...What are you smoking? He's 1+ P/GP in the regular season & .88 P/GP in the playoffs! Give your head a shake!


nobody is gonna give an elite package up to get him. not a single team in the league has a reason to do that. great regular season player but that doesnt mean anything if he kills his team during the playoffs. teams dont build to win in the regular season, they build to win cups. .8 PPG in the playoffs is cool until u look at his play and realize he directly kills his team. hes gone +/- 1< 3 times in his career. do u know how bad u have to be defensively to score at a near point per game pace and still have 5 of ur playoff runs end in a 1 +/- or worse? please dont shake ur head, uve clearly got a few screws lose esp if u think marner is worth that
Quoting: svfsdv
Marner isnt going anywhere without an extension. So that conversation is moot.

95% of teams wont give him the 12+m he will want. which will instantly kill most teams he would waive for. unless the cap jumps 8m+ next season its not worth getting 1 winger who cant run his own line on one of the biggest deals in the league. lets be semi realistic here.
17 juin à 9 h 47
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nobody is gonna give an elite package up to get him. not a single team in the league has a reason to do that. great regular season player but that doesnt mean anything if he kills his team during the playoffs. teams dont build to win in the regular season, they build to win cups. .8 PPG in the playoffs is cool until u look at his play and realize he directly kills his team. hes gone +/- 1< 3 times in his career. do u know how bad u have to be defensively to score at a near point per game pace and still have 5 of ur playoff runs end in a 1 +/- or worse? please dont shake ur head, uve clearly got a few screws lose esp if u think marner is worth that

95% of teams wont give him the 12+m he will want. which will instantly kill most teams he would waive for. unless the cap jumps 8m+ next season its not worth getting 1 winger who cant run his own line on one of the biggest deals in the league. lets be semi realistic here.


Yes lets. So in your opinion, Marner will be out of the league after this season? He goes to FA and nobody signs him. 100 pt annual player. in his prime. Wont get a contract? Please, yes, lets be realistic.
17 juin à 9 h 54
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Yes lets. So in your opinion, Marner will be out of the league after this season? He goes to FA and nobody signs him. 100 pt annual player. in his prime. Wont get a contract? Please, yes, lets be realistic.


who said he wont get signed? teams not interested in moving a massive haul of assets or adding 12+m in cap hit doesnt mean he wont get signed. there will be a team or 2 that is desperate for any talent and offers him a deal but they wont be a contending team. marner will most likely only waive to go to a contending team so thus that kills any trade package if ur expecting his value from 2 years ago. most contending teams are already going to be near the cap after resigning/ signing FA. marner would be a good 2nd line RW for a few teams but hes not a top line guy on any contending team. yk hes never actually scored 100 points right? hes a 90+ point scorer but that doesnt mean anything if he doesnt help his team win. if at best hes barley helping his team as a 10-12M top line RW whos supposed to be an elite 2 way player. thats not good for any contending team. most likely hes going to either get moved for theo + roy or he stays for another year and walks to a team on a 1-2 year 8-10M deal to rebuild his stock up while the cap keeps rising to go for a mega deal.
17 juin à 9 h 55
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nobody is gonna give an elite package up to get him. not a single team in the league has a reason to do that. great regular season player but that doesnt mean anything if he kills his team during the playoffs. teams dont build to win in the regular season, they build to win cups. .8 PPG in the playoffs is cool until u look at his play and realize he directly kills his team. hes gone +/- 1< 3 times in his career. do u know how bad u have to be defensively to score at a near point per game pace and still have 5 of ur playoff runs end in a 1 +/- or worse? please dont shake ur head, uve clearly got a few screws lose esp if u think marner is worth that

95% of teams wont give him the 12+m he will want. which will instantly kill most teams he would waive for. unless the cap jumps 8m+ next season its not worth getting 1 winger who cant run his own line on one of the biggest deals in the league. lets be semi realistic here.


Seriously. Did you just suggest a selke level player is bad defensively? One of if not the best defensive winger in the league? And you are backing that up by using a team stat? +- to justify your rambling??
Ovie career playoffs.....+3. 10 of 14 years in the playoffs, he finished with a minus....But ya. He is a terrible player too lololol WOW.
17 juin à 10 h 0
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who said he wont get signed? teams not interested in moving a massive haul of assets or adding 12+m in cap hit doesnt mean he wont get signed. there will be a team or 2 that is desperate for any talent and offers him a deal but they wont be a contending team. marner will most likely only waive to go to a contending team so thus that kills any trade package if ur expecting his value from 2 years ago. most contending teams are already going to be near the cap after resigning/ signing FA. marner would be a good 2nd line RW for a few teams but hes not a top line guy on any contending team. yk hes never actually scored 100 points right? hes a 90+ point scorer but that doesnt mean anything if he doesnt help his team win. if at best hes barley helping his team as a 10-12M top line RW whos supposed to be an elite 2 way player. thats not good for any contending team. most likely hes going to either get moved for theo + roy or he stays for another year and walks to a team on a 1-2 year 8-10M deal to rebuild his stock up while the cap keeps rising to go for a mega deal.


"its not worth getting 1 winger who cant run his own line on one of the biggest deals in the league."
You did.
You just said he isnt worth the money.
So if he signs a new contract, that means he is though right?
The best hockey minds on earth disagree with you.
Or he would not be in the league and would not get a contract.
He is either worth the money, in which case the profession hockey experts on these billion dollar franchises will see his value and sign him.
Or they wont.
If he gets a contract of any kind from any team through trade or FA or anything.
Then you are wrong.
Its pretty simple.
17 juin à 10 h 1
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Seriously. Did you just suggest a selke level player is bad defensively? One of if not the best defensive winger in the league? And you are backing that up by using a team stat? +- to justify your rambling??
Ovie career playoffs.....+3. 10 of 14 years in the playoffs, he finished with a minus....But ya. He is a terrible player too lololol WOW.


Quoting: svfsdv
Seriously. Did you just suggest a selke level player is bad defensively? One of if not the best defensive winger in the league? And you are backing that up by using a team stat? +- to justify your rambling??
Ovie career playoffs.....+3. 10 of 14 years in the playoffs, he finished with a minus....But ya. He is a terrible player too lololol WOW.


you clearly cannot comprehend simple statements and are letting ur leafs homerism cloud any voice of reason. but go on my friend. please expect and elite package and when he doesnt get moved, u lose in the first round again and then he walks to a different team on a 1-2 year deal to rebuild his stock to get a mega 14+m deal as the cap goes up u will be left wondering how on earth u got left behind
17 juin à 10 h 3
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"its not worth getting 1 winger who cant run his own line on one of the biggest deals in the league."
You did.
You just said he isnt worth the money.
So if he signs a new contract, that means he is though right?
The best hockey minds on earth disagree with you.
Or he would not be in the league and would not get a contract.
He is either worth the money, in which case the profession hockey experts on these billion dollar franchises will see his value and sign him.
Or they wont.
If he gets a contract of any kind from any team through trade or FA or anything.
Then you are wrong.
Its pretty simple.


you are very very clueless. being worth a 7-8M per year deal that got boosted to 10.9m bc JT and matthews walked dubas in contract talks doesnt mean he is going to be worth 12M + now. he will get signed to a team. not for 12+. it does not mean I am wrong for saying he isnt worth overpaying for. that means he ISNT WORTH OVERPAYING FOR. its fairly simple my friend. go take a nap gramps. u need it.
17 juin à 10 h 10
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you clearly cannot comprehend simple statements and are letting ur leafs homerism cloud any voice of reason. but go on my friend. please expect and elite package and when he doesnt get moved, u lose in the first round again and then he walks to a different team on a 1-2 year deal to rebuild his stock to get a mega 14+m deal as the cap goes up u will be left wondering how on earth u got left behind


Never said anything about any trade package. Dont know who you think you are talking too. But its not me.
17 juin à 10 h 13
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you are very very clueless. being worth a 7-8M per year deal that got boosted to 10.9m bc JT and matthews walked dubas in contract talks doesnt mean he is going to be worth 12M + now. he will get signed to a team. not for 12+. it does not mean I am wrong for saying he isnt worth overpaying for. that means he ISNT WORTH OVERPAYING FOR. its fairly simple my friend. go take a nap gramps. u need it.


So you are wrong then. You said he isn't worth the money. And now you are tracking cause I called you out. You know he will get signed. Likely for between 10 and 11.5m per. And you will look back and remember this conversation and how you tried to pretend you knew more about player value than NHL team management staffs lol
17 juin à 10 h 13
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So you are wrong then. You said he isn't worth the money. And now you are back tracking cause I called you out. You know he will get signed. Likely for between 10 and 11.5m per. And you will look back and remember this conversation and how you tried to pretend you knew more about player value than NHL team management staffs lol
17 juin à 11 h 49
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Idk why people are saying Toronto declines. I’d be happy with this
 
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