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Sabres will not add a big money contract this offseason

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Bc, as u can see, the Sabres are already in trouble just trying to pay the talent they already have for the ‘25-26 season
All they can really do here (that’s significant) is buy out Skinner, which i think is actually likely

But then they need to find a top9 winger for around $1mil

Obviously that’s possible
But adding a guy like Konecny or Buchnevich (or whoever else) that’ll have a significant Cap Hit just isn’t reasonable for this offseason
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23 mai à 16 h 3
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@Chapee44

This is why the Sabres can’t spend big this offseason
There just simply won’t be room under the 25-26 Cap
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They won’t add any one significant, but Jokiharju will be traded this off-season he’s not good and will cost 3.5-4, can’t see Byram making 7 million unless his defensive play improves and produces at a higher rate.
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I think you were generous with some of those contracts.

We also don't need to sign all of those players.

We also can trade roster players
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You are paying Byram and Quinn too much. Quinn may get a bridge deal unless he has a dominant year which he could. But I could see a bridge
23 mai à 17 h 57
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Quoting: JustAnotherHockeyFan
Chapee44

This is why the Sabres can’t spend big this offseason
There just simply won’t be room under the 25-26 Cap


Skinner buyout.
Byram hasn't even earned a 6M x 2yr bridge yet let alone that money, he's so TBD it's crazy.
Quinn 4.5M x 2yr bridge solves a lot of problems.
You're creating problems here.
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Disagree. Moving or buying out skinner after this season gives them enough flexibility to (probably) make it work even with some notable adds. Whether they actually will is another story
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Quoting: PHEN
You are paying Byram and Quinn too much. Quinn may get a bridge deal unless he has a dominant year which he could. But I could see a bridge


Quoting: JokiStan
Disagree. Moving or buying out skinner after this season gives them enough flexibility to (probably) make it work even with some notable adds. Whether they actually will is another story


No, it doesn’t
You’re flat out WRONG @jokistan

Just adjusted it to a Skinner buyout, and Quinn at a $4.5mil bridge deal (which is far fetched imo), and took Byram off the books bc @chapee44 considers him a “?”

And all that does is give them $10.5mil in room to sign Byram & replace Skinner

That absolutely DOES NOT create space to add a guy like Konecny or Buchnevich- it just doesn’t
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I think you were generous with some of those contracts.

We also don't need to sign all of those players.

We also can trade roster players


Anyone the Sabres trade or don’t sign needs to be replaced in the lineup
These major addition ACGMs are a very unlikely dream
Sabres do not have the future Cap Space you’re acting like they have
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They won’t add any one significant, but Jokiharju will be traded this off-season he’s not good and will cost 3.5-4, can’t see Byram making 7 million unless his defensive play improves and produces at a higher rate.


Even if he signs for HALF of that- $3.5mil,
that still does t leave room for a Konecny-like addition

Not even close
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Quoting: JustAnotherHockeyFan
Anyone the Sabres trade or don’t sign needs to be replaced in the lineup
These major addition ACGMs are a very unlikely dream
Sabres do not have the future Cap Space you’re acting like they have


Most would be replaced with ELCs

What kind of seasons are you expecting peterka, Quinn and Byram to have to earn that term and aav?

Edit: i see you've already made major edits
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Even if he signs for HALF of that- $3.5mil,
that still does t leave room for a Konecny-like addition

Not even close

Yeah I know.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Most would be replaced with ELCs

What kind of seasons are you expecting peterka, Quinn and Byram to have to earn that term and aav?

Edit: i see you've already made major edits


And what ELCs are replacing who exactly
There’s already 5 ELCs in the lineup, including Savoie & Kulich & Rosen & Rousek

There isn’t anyone else who’ll be ready
Maybe Ostlund- maybe
But even then, it doesn’t save enough to add Konecny- or anyone like him

Go ahead & do an ACGM for the ‘25-26 season and you’ll see for yourself that the future Cap Space just isn’t there to make big moves right now
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Yeah I know.


Then what was the point of your post ?
I signed Jokiharju at $4mil, bc if they keep him it’ll be something like that, and if they replace him it’ll be with someone who (presumably) makes something in the $4mil per range


The overall point I’m making is that the Sabres don’t have the future Cap Space to make a big addition this summer
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And what ELCs are replacing who exactly
There’s already 5 ELCs in the lineup, including Savoie & Kulich & Rosen & Rousek

There isn’t anyone else who’ll be ready
Maybe Ostlund- maybe
But even then, it doesn’t save enough to add Konecny- or anyone like him

Go ahead & do an ACGM for the ‘25-26 season and you’ll see for yourself that the future Cap Space just isn’t there to make big moves right now


Rousek of course isn't an elc.

Also, one could trade Samuelsson, not give ryan johnson, Krebs or greenway those contracts. Or trade any of those players.

I also expect the cap to be higher thanks to the revenue from the sale to utah
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Rousek of course isn't an elc.

Also, one could trade Samuelsson, not give ryan johnson, Krebs or greenway those contracts. Or trade any of those players.

I also expect the cap to be higher thanks to the revenue from the sale to utah


If u replace Krebs & Greenway with $1mil UFA scrubs instead then u save $2mil- big whoop

If u trade Samuelsson, then you’ve done so bc R.Johnson looked good enough to earn at least a $2mil deal- probably more

Plus, the next year is gonna need (at minimum) big extensions for Tuch & Benson

U guys just aren’t being realistic with your future Cap Space
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If u replace Krebs & Greenway with $1mil UFA scrubs instead then u save $2mil- big whoop

If u trade Samuelsson, then you’ve done so bc R.Johnson looked good enough to earn at least a $2mil deal- probably more

Plus, the next year is gonna need (at minimum) big extensions for Tuch & Benson

U guys just aren’t being realistic with your future Cap Space


Or samuelsson is replaced by Nikita novikov on an elc. Or a vet on a tiny deal.

Or Byram gets 5 million and peterka 6x6. So many possibilities

Tuch will likely sign a max term deal to keep aav down, someone will be traded. It's ok
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Or samuelsson is replaced by Nikita novikov on an elc. Or a vet on a tiny deal.

Or Byram gets 5 million and peterka 6x6. So many possibilities

Tuch will likely sign a max term deal to keep aav down, someone will be traded. It's ok


I’m not saying it isn’t “ok”
I’m saying u don’t have room to trade for Konecny & then extend him at $8mil (or more)

Even with bridge deals for Byram & Quinn & Peterka,
it still doesn’t work
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The 2025-2026 season is at least another season away. How about focusing on the 2024-2025 season?

The Sabres need to land big fish this offseason. Big fish are players that produce and perform well and are committed to "winning now." Not all fish will be acquired via free agency. Some roster players will find themselves on the outside looking at better talent. They will be expendable via trade.
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Quoting: DragonKnight
The 2025-2026 season is at least another season away. How about focusing on the 2024-2025 season?


I did this to show that a guy like Konecny or Buchnevich (or whoever) won’t be able to be signed AFTER this year

So of course the Sabres will focus on getting better this year,
but that doesn’t mean they don’t have in mind that Byram, Quinn & Peterka are gonna take up a significant amount of Cap Space

That just doesn’t leave room for making major additions like i keep seeing here
Sorry to rain on the parade, but any major addition is gonna have to result in a major subtraction next season
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Quoting: JustAnotherHockeyFan
I did this to show that a guy like Konecny or Buchnevich (or whoever) won’t be able to be signed AFTER this year

So of course the Sabres will focus on getting better this year,
but that doesn’t mean they don’t have in mind that Byram, Quinn & Peterka are gonna take up a significant amount of Cap Space

That just doesn’t leave room for making major additions like i keep seeing here
Sorry to rain on the parade, but any major addition is gonna have to result in a major subtraction next season


Leaders to be major subtractions are defensemen Mattias Samuelsson and Henri Jokiharju. Samuelsson needs to prove he can play a full season and be an effective first or second pairing defenseman. Jokiharju will be outplayed by better defensemen in the Sabres' farm system. Subtracting Samuelsson and Jokiharju frees up $9 million to make upgrades elsewhere.
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Quoting: DragonKnight
Leaders to be major subtractions are defensemen Mattias Samuelsson and Henri Jokiharju. Samuelsson needs to prove he can play a full season and be an effective first or second pairing defenseman. Jokiharju will be outplayed by better defensemen in the Sabres' farm system. Subtracting Samuelsson and Jokiharju frees up $9 million to make upgrades elsewhere.


Except u presume way too much

1- the Sabres like BOTH Samuelsson & Jokiharju, and it’s just a guess on your part that they’ll be moved out
There’s not much to suggest they actually will be

2- if they are moved out- IF- then they’ll need to be replaced by more than guys from the farm system, of which u have few,
who would just make your defense even younger & more suspect than it already is
Even if u think that’s actually the best idea (it’s not),
there’s absolutely no chance your GM does

I guess I’d just invite you to be more realistic,
which has been my point all along
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Except u presume way too much

1- the Sabres like BOTH Samuelsson & Jokiharju, and it’s just a guess on your part that they’ll be moved out
There’s not much to suggest they actually will be

2- if they are moved out- IF- then they’ll need to be replaced by more than guys from the farm system, of which u have few,
who would just make your defense even younger & more suspect than it already is
Even if u think that’s actually the best idea (it’s not),
there’s absolutely no chance your GM does

I guess I’d just invite you to be more realistic,
which has been my point all along


I am not going to debate what alternate reality you see the Sabres. There is another outlet for that discussion.

The Sabres have many players they like. Unfortunately, players need to be moved in order to get better. Parting with Mittlestadt and Okposo were the first of difficult and necessary decisions for the Sabres to get better.
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Quoting: DragonKnight
I am not going to debate what alternate reality you see the Sabres. There is another outlet for that discussion.


Lol
That’s what i thought. Thanks for stopping by
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COUNTERPOINT:
The Sabres should not be worried about two seasons from now because THEY HAVEN'T MADE THE PLAYOFFS IN 13 YEARS.
Get a real team on the ice and figure out the rest later.
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Quoting: BMaz
COUNTERPOINT:
The Sabres should not be worried about two seasons from now because THEY HAVEN'T MADE THE PLAYOFFS IN 13 YEARS.
Get a real team on the ice and figure out the rest later.


When u have 3 major contracts coming up,
u really can’t stick your head in the sand & pretend they aren’t coming

Well, i guess u could. But no team is gonna do that
 
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