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Créé par: thombouch
Équipe: 2024-25 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 18 mai 2024
Publié: 18 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
31 800 000 $
1775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 000 000 $
66 000 000 $
76 500 000 $
32 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
Transactions
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NSH
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Robertson, Nicholas [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Marner signs an extension with Nashville
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TOR
    Future considerations
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    18 mai à 22 h 25
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    Nashville won't trade Evangelista and they don't have room on the wing for both Marner and Robertson

    Montour will get at least 7M
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    18 mai à 22 h 36
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Nashville won't trade Evangelista and they don't have room on the wing for both Marner and Robertson

    Montour will get at least 7M


    If they're getting Marner 100% they are. As well this is well below fair value for Marner. 90 point player that is elite defensively is extremely rare and hard combo to find. it will be a larger return than the Dubois trade
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    18 mai à 22 h 38
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    Quoting: CakeEaterBanks
    If they're getting Marner 100% they are. As well this is well below fair value for Marner. 90 point player that is elite defensively is extremely rare and hard combo to find. it will be a larger return than the Dubois trade


    He's good defensively, not elite. You undervalue how good Saros is if you think this is well below market value lol

    And no, they simply won't make Evangelista available
    18 mai à 22 h 38
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Nashville won't trade Evangelista and they don't have room on the wing for both Marner and Robertson

    Montour will get at least 7M


    Nah they lack wingers. Forsberg, Nyquist, Smith and McCarron are their wingers signed for next season (Evangelista too, but let's not include him). Besides Forsberg and Nyquist, that's pretty weak.

    As for Montour, I don't think he gets 7M with max term, maybe if he signs for 5 years.

    And I do believe Nashville would be open to trading Evangelista, only if they get a star winger like Marner.
    18 mai à 22 h 44
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    He's good defensively, not elite. You undervalue how good Saros is if you think this is well below market value lol

    And no, they simply won't make Evangelista available


    I am not undervaluing Saros.

    Easier to find an elite goalie than a 90 point forward that is elite defensively.

    He is elite defensively. Plays the pk, constantly amongst the league leaders in takeaways and has elite defensive analytics.
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    19 mai à 0 h 15
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    Nah they lack wingers. Forsberg, Nyquist, Smith and McCarron are their wingers signed for next season (Evangelista too, but let's not include him). Besides Forsberg and Nyquist, that's pretty weak.

    As for Montour, I don't think he gets 7M with max term, maybe if he signs for 5 years.

    And I do believe Nashville would be open to trading Evangelista, only if they get a star winger like Marner.


    They lack wingers? Forsberg, Nyqvist, Evangelista, Tomasino, Afanasyev, Kemell, L'Heureux, Parssinen, Smith, Jankowski, McCarran. And if they choose they can re-sign JAD. They have no lack of wingers.
    The bolded above require waivers to be sent down (yes obviously Forsberg and Nyqvist won't be sent down).

    No they love Evangelista, they will move Tomasino or Kemmel though

    Just because you don't want to pay Montour 7M at max term doesn't mean he doesn't easily get it elsewhere
    19 mai à 3 h 1
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    Quoting: CakeEaterBanks
    I am not undervaluing Saros.

    Easier to find an elite goalie than a 90 point forward that is elite defensively.

    He is elite defensively. Plays the pk, constantly amongst the league leaders in takeaways and has elite defensive analytics.


    We can do this math, there are 4-6 other goalies of Saros' caliber in the league. Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, Hellebuyck, and Sorokin for sure. Arguably Demko and Oettinger.

    As for 90 point wingers (or wingers who get around 1.1ppg or more), there were 12 this year. Of those 12, 5 of them are known to have strong defensive games (6 if you include Jason Robertson who did not produce 1.1ppg this season but generally does)
    19 mai à 7 h 51
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    They lack wingers? Forsberg, Nyqvist, Evangelista, Tomasino, Afanasyev, Kemell, L'Heureux, Parssinen, Smith, Jankowski, McCarran. And if they choose they can re-sign JAD. They have no lack of wingers.
    The bolded above require waivers to be sent down (yes obviously Forsberg and Nyqvist won't be sent down).

    No they love Evangelista, they will move Tomasino or Kemmel though

    Just because you don't want to pay Montour 7M at max term doesn't mean he doesn't easily get it elsewhere



    Jankowski, Parssinen, Tomasino are all centers. You said they had a lack of wingers, not forwards. Not to mention Parssinen has been up and down the minors. As for L’Heureux and Kemell, they have yet to play a single NHL game… so it’s pretty hard to say they’re ready to be NHLers for next season.

    It was reported a couple days ago that Nashville was interested for Marner, they’re not getting him only with Saros and one of Kemell or Tomasino. If Toronto adds Robertson to the conversation, who has scored at a really good 5v5 rate in limited minutes and still has quite some potential, it’s not disrespectful to ask for Evangelista.

    For Montour, man… I’d be very surprised if he gets 7x7, I’m thinking 6.5x7 is the max he’ll get. Let’s just wait and see I guess!
    19 mai à 8 h 59
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    Jankowski, Parssinen, Tomasino are all centers. You said they had a lack of wingers, not forwards. Not to mention Parssinen has been up and down the minors. As for L’Heureux and Kemell, they have yet to play a single NHL game… so it’s pretty hard to say they’re ready to be NHLers for next season.

    It was reported a couple days ago that Nashville was interested for Marner, they’re not getting him only with Saros and one of Kemell or Tomasino. If Toronto adds Robertson to the conversation, who has scored at a really good 5v5 rate in limited minutes and still has quite some potential, it’s not disrespectful to ask for Evangelista.

    For Montour, man… I’d be very surprised if he gets 7x7, I’m thinking 6.5x7 is the max he’ll get. Let’s just wait and see I guess!


    Lets clarify some things. You can only run 4 centers on any NHL roster. As it stands for Nashville currently 3 of those spots are occupied by ROR, Novak, and Sissons. With no changes the 4th spot is currently held by McCarron but ideally they shift Sissons down to 4th line and acquire a top 9 center.
    Tomasino has played minimal to no center since junior, he will almost certainly stay on the wing at this point. Parssinen and Jankowski can play center but again if 3 of those spots are occupied then only 1 of them can be up the middle if at all.
    None of Parssinen, Tomasino, or Afanasyev should be playing in the AHL, and due to loss of waiver exemption this summer they will all be up in the big league. Robertson also loses waiver exemption this summer.
    Evangelista can still be sent down but apparently Brunette really likes him. I think that will be a big reason on him being unavailable. Similarly he was less fond hence one over the other despite similar production.

    So NHL rosters typically run 12 forwards and 2 rotational/scratch forwards. Along with the 9 forwards I named above Nashville also has Forsberg, Nyqvist, Glass, Smith, and maybe JAD. Totaling 13(14). Yes they would love to add Marner (I am not denying that) but they probably aren't interested in adding another winger who can't be sent down in Robertson. They especially probably aren't interested in trading their only forward who can be sent down.

    If we are looking at who is and isn't available from Nashville's young players/prospects I would assume Evangelista and Askarov are off limits. They are probably pretty hesitant on Molendyk, L'Heureux, and Kemell but would be willing to part with one for Marner.

    As for Montour, AFP Analytics projects him getting 8.5Mx7 so I think he gets at minimum 7M and at minimum 6 years. Hanifin just signed for 7.35Mx8, he set the market.
     
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