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EP Come Home

Créé par: GMDannyB
Équipe: 2024-25 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 27 févr. 2024
Publié: 27 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It’s an ET reference I know EP isn’t from Philly so relax
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
812 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
    Walker at 50% retained and Seeler at the 2023-2024 TDL
    2.
    PHI
      Pure cap dump to anywhere, he stinks.
      ARI
      1. Atkinson, Cam (2 937 500 $ retained)
      2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
      3.
      PHI
      1. Pettersson, Elias [Droits de RFA]
      Détails additionnels:
      Flyers fans will probably say it’s an overpay and Vancouver fans will probably say it’s an underpay. In reality you will never win a trade where you give away a player as good as EP and it will always sting in the amount u have to give up to get a player as good as EP.
      VAN
      1. Foerster, Tyson
      2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
      4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
      5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      Enfoui
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2024
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      2025
      Logo de PHI
      Logo de PHI
      Logo de ANA
      Logo de PHI
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      Logo de CAR
      Logo de PHI
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      2026
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2187 700 000 $87 786 428 $245 000 $32 500 $-86 428 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      6 200 000 $6 200 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 8
      12 000 000 $12 000 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      AD
      RFA
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
      C
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
      DD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
      G
      RFA - 2
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 7
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      925 000 $925 000 $
      G
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      903 333 $903 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
      DG
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      787 500 $787 500 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
      6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3

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      27 févr. à 11 h 55
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      EP grew up in South Philly
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      27 févr. à 11 h 57
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      Vancouver would prob ask for one of Farabee Konecny Drysdale or Bonk for Petey. Ik Philly wont trade Michkov at all
      27 févr. à 12 h 0
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      just do buyout of atkinsion - 2.3m and 1.7m cap hits
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      27 févr. à 12 h 15
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      I don't know if it is so much about an overpay or underpay; if you trade EP, you probably lose the trade.

      But people do need to try to understand the philosophy of Vancouver's front office while dreaming about what they could trade for him. They would never do this trade. If they are trading Petey, it will be for a package similar to what the Flames got from Tkachuk. This front office is way too invested in the 'now' to make a trade like this for a bunch of picks.
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      27 févr. à 12 h 22
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      Anyone know what Pettersson's go-to cheesesteak spot is?
      27 févr. à 17 h 17
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      Quoting: canucksfan43
      Vancouver would prob ask for one of Farabee Konecny Drysdale or Bonk for Petey. Ik Philly wont trade Michkov at all


      A deal that includes TK probably takes out 2 of those 1sts and Foerster. There’s also no real point of giving TK in the deal to bring EP in and give him no top line players to play with cause u traded the only one u had to get EP in TK lol. Farabee probably could be available, Bonk possibly too. They aren’t moving Drysdale. The idea with Foerster was 3 1st round picks and a 1st round equivalent.
      27 févr. à 17 h 19
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      Quoting: dfawcett
      I don't know if it is so much about an overpay or underpay; if you trade EP, you probably lose the trade.

      But people do need to try to understand the philosophy of Vancouver's front office while dreaming about what they could trade for him. They would never do this trade. If they are trading Petey, it will be for a package similar to what the Flames got from Tkachuk. This front office is way too invested in the 'now' to make a trade like this for a bunch of picks.


      Those deals are nearly impossible to pull off and someone always loses when they are pulled off (Hubby being useless for 1/2 the season on a horrible contract) which is why they rarely happen like that. Trading EP basically signals *Not Competing Right Now* no matter what the FO wants. You trade him and ur retooling regardless at least the picks allows you to then flip them for someone who wants to be there.
      27 févr. à 17 h 20
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      Quoting: bwhsocal
      just do buyout of atkinsion - 2.3m and 1.7m cap hits


      This is something I do hope they explore in the summer
      27 févr. à 19 h 2
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      Quoting: GMDannyB
      Those deals are nearly impossible to pull off and someone always loses when they are pulled off (Hubby being useless for 1/2 the season on a horrible contract) which is why they rarely happen like that. Trading EP basically signals *Not Competing Right Now* no matter what the FO wants. You trade him and ur retooling regardless at least the picks allows you to then flip them for someone who wants to be there.


      There are actually a few analogous examples, to some extent. Obviously the Tkachuk trade. The Eichel trade - unique given his status - but it included a significant player in Tuch, who has been great for Buffalo. The PLD trade could also be considered similar, and netted three useful players (and was a win for Winnipeg so far).

      I know it is a less likely route in terms of finding a partner, but I feel like people outside of Vancouver may not truly understand how much disdain this ownership group has for a rebuild, at least to the extent that this trade would suggest (e.g. the major value being in picks).

      We wanted them to trade pieces for just picks and rebuild the right way for years, but they didn't. I doubt they do that with a player of Pettersson's calibre given their contract sheet/roster construction now (e.g. Hughes on an efficient contract, Demko on a great contract, Miller locked in and 31).

      And even if I am wrong about that, three mid-to-late firsts aren't getting it done. wink
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      Quoting: dfawcett
      There are actually a few analogous examples, to some extent. Obviously the Tkachuk trade. The Eichel trade - unique given his status - but it included a significant player in Tuch, who has been great for Buffalo. The PLD trade could also be considered similar, and netted three useful players (and was a win for Winnipeg so far).

      I know it is a less likely route in terms of finding a partner, but I feel like people outside of Vancouver may not truly understand how much disdain this ownership group has for a rebuild, at least to the extent that this trade would suggest (e.g. the major value being in picks).

      We wanted them to trade pieces for just picks and rebuild the right way for years, but they didn't. I doubt they do that with a player of Pettersson's calibre given their contract sheet/roster construction now (e.g. Hughes on an efficient contract, Demko on a great contract, Miller locked in and 31).

      And even if I am wrong about that, three mid-to-late firsts aren't getting it done. wink


      Doesn’t matter now that he signed anyway but 4 1sts is literally his offer sheet value and to suggest it would cost more is laughable
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      Quoting: GMDannyB
      Doesn’t matter now that he signed anyway but 4 1sts is literally his offer sheet value and to suggest it would cost more is laughable


      I didn't say it would cost more than 4 1sts; I said it would cost something different than a bunch of lottery tickets based on the philosophy of the Vancouver ownership group and front office.

      If we have moved to an offer sheet situation, I'm sure the Canucks would have happily signed him to whatever he signed, for the exact same thing I said above: they don't want a bunch of picks that won't play for the team for 2-4 years.
       
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