both are very weak offers.

Take the dumba deal for instance: have you seen ARZ's draft picks? Do they even have a roster spot for Robertson? Those things have less value to them than they would elsewhere, but its in the ballpark.

Timmins (on his 4th team, cant play defense, healthy/unhealthy scratch) has no value and a pick TWO drafts away might get one of those pieces, maybe.

Robertson for dumba 1 for 1, the 3rd is too much for a dmen who isn’t the same as he used to be

We don’t have a need for Tatar or Bellemare