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Hanifin and Gibson

Créé par: Devsfan25
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2024
Publié: 25 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Janmark, Mattias
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
2.
NJD
  1. Gibson, John (1 500 000 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Casey, Seamus [Liste de réserve]
  2. Vanecek, Vitek
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
3.
NJD
  1. Hanifin, Noah
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
CGY
  1. Clarke, Graeme
  2. Siegenthaler, Jonas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
DD
RFA - 3
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
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775 000 $775 000 $
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
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25 févr. à 0 h 26
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Strong…would be psyched with this lineup.
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Strong…would be psyched with this lineup.


Replace siegs with Bahl in the trade and it would be much better
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Replace siegs with Bahl in the trade and it would be much better


Agreed.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Replace siegs with Bahl in the trade and it would be much better


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Agreed.


Doesn’t work cap wise. We’d struggle to have a suitable top 9 in 24-25 if Bahl was included instead of Siegenthaler
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Yes, Anaheim accepts
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Doesn’t work cap wise. We’d struggle to have a suitable top 9 in 24-25 if Bahl was included instead of Siegenthaler


Then get more retention on Gibson. At the price you're paying you certainly can. Or go for a cheaper cap option like Pettersson instead of Hanifin. If you're trying to shed cap 3.4 mill on siegs isn't the way to do it
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Yes, Anaheim accepts


Thanks for the input. Definitely think this deal would help both sides. Casey gives ANA a future top 4 offensive RHD and ANA gets another 1st round pick to choose another quality player
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Then get more retention on Gibson. At the price you're paying you certainly can. Or go for a cheaper cap option like Pettersson instead of Hanifin. If you're trying to shed cap 3.4 mill on siegs isn't the way to do it


Pettersson will be at 4m in 24-25, but then he’ll be due for an extension as well that will probably pay him 5.5-6.5; Hanifin is a much better player. If acquiring Hanifin means dealing Siegenthaler, I don’t even think twice and I’m not a Kevin Bahl fan. Even if you’re not confident in Bahl for 24-25, you can sign someone like Kulikov for 1m on a 1 year deal. Not gonna get more retention on Gibson with his term and them taking Vanecek back
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Pettersson will be at 4m in 24-25, but then he’ll be due for an extension as well that will probably pay him 5.5-6.5; Hanifin is a much better player. If acquiring Hanifin means dealing Siegenthaler, I don’t even think twice and I’m not a Kevin Bahl fan. Even if you’re not confident in Bahl for 24-25, you can sign someone like Kulikov for 1m on a 1 year deal. Not gonna get more retention on Gibson with his term and them taking Vanecek back


You make that move and you're gonna spend the next 5 years desperately trying to get a dman as good as siegenthaler at that price.

Graves just got 4.5 in UFA and he was a tier below siegenthaler. and prices only go up as the cap rises.

If you want to move Siegs, sell him. Do not just throw him away "to make the cap work".

As a UFA Siegs would likely get a 5x5. That is 8 million dollars of surplus value you're throwing away.

I urge you to find a dman as good as siegs who you can get at 17 mill total over the next 5 years without throwing away massive draft capital
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Pettersson will be at 4m in 24-25, but then he’ll be due for an extension as well that will probably pay him 5.5-6.5; Hanifin is a much better player. If acquiring Hanifin means dealing Siegenthaler, I don’t even think twice and I’m not a Kevin Bahl fan. Even if you’re not confident in Bahl for 24-25, you can sign someone like Kulikov for 1m on a 1 year deal. Not gonna get more retention on Gibson with his term and them taking Vanecek back


But let's do some simple math.

You have UFA hanifin valued here at 7 million. (market value) You're buying 1 year of him at 5 mill. That is 2 mill in surplus value.

Let's conservatively value Siegenthaler at the graves deal of 4.5 mill. That is 5.5 mill in surplus value there.
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But let's do some simple math.

You have UFA hanifin valued here at 7 million. (market value) You're buying 1 year of him at 5 mill. That is 2 mill in surplus value.

Let's conservatively value Siegenthaler at the graves deal of 4.5 mill. That is 5.5 mill in surplus value there.


The way you’re looking at it isn’t reality tho. The first thing you have to take into account is the quality of player. Siegenthaler is a 2nd pairing dman while Hanifin is a top pairing dman which is why he’s worth the 7m. Tbh, Siegs for the better part of the past year has been one of the most inconsistent players on the team. He was god awful today vs the Habs. So yeah maybe we have him a million under market value, but that doesn’t mean he’s unmovable if you can land a player like Hanifin
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The way you’re looking at it isn’t reality tho. The first thing you have to take into account is the quality of player. Siegenthaler is a 2nd pairing dman while Hanifin is a top pairing dman which is why he’s worth the 7m. Tbh, Siegs for the better part of the past year has been one of the most inconsistent players on the team. He was god awful today vs the Habs. So yeah maybe we have him a million under market value, but that doesn’t mean he’s unmovable if you can land a player like Hanifin


You can find ways to fit Hanifin at 7 mill without sacrificing siegs. and siegs at 3.4 will be a need
 
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