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Canucks go all in

Créé par: djmbrown
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2024
Publié: 2 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Rationale is that Coleman is an upgrade on Garland at the same price. Tanev is a big defensive upgrade on Myers for 1.5 cheaper. He also signs an extension as part of the deal. Lekkermaki is a high end prospect but if you’re all in then you gotta go for it. I know nobody ever wants to give up their top prospects but if it means you better your odds at a cup it’s worth it.
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CGY
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Lekkerimäki, Jonathan
  3. Myers, Tyler
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Coleman, Blake
  2. Tanev, Christopher
Détails additionnels:
Tanev signs extension at 4x4
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2 févr. à 11 h 54
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Way too much for the Canucks to give up, we'd rather keep Garland, the price of Tanev is said to be a 2nd round pick + and Lekkeriamaki is off the table in any trade
2 févr. à 11 h 58
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I do get your rationale on this, but I'm not convinced the swap of Coleman for Garland is worth it for the Canucks if they have to give up a top prospect. Coleman's been very good offensively this year but Garland has been (an admittedly overpriced) part of a great 3rd line in VAN. He's playing very well under Tocchet's system even if it doesn't show as much on the scoreboard.

I still think a Myers for Tanev swap should be looked at by Allvin, but it seems they don't want to pay a 1st for him. Likely there's another team that will.
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So the reported price for Tanev is a 1st rounder. That means that we'll be giving up Garland, Meyers, Lekkerimaki and a 4th for Coleman?
2 févr. à 13 h 14
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Quoting: canucksfan43
Way too much for the Canucks to give up, we'd rather keep Garland, the price of Tanev is said to be a 2nd round pick + and Lekkeriamaki is off the table in any trade


Right but when there’s 10 teams interested then the price goes up. Do you think the price Vancouver paid was the price that Lindholm was “said to get”? Nope Vancouver wanted him so they paid the price to get him.
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I will after you delete your account
2 févr. à 13 h 23
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
I do get your rationale on this, but I'm not convinced the swap of Coleman for Garland is worth it for the Canucks if they have to give up a top prospect. Coleman's been very good offensively this year but Garland has been (an admittedly overpriced) part of a great 3rd line in VAN. He's playing very well under Tocchet's system even if it doesn't show as much on the scoreboard.

I still think a Myers for Tanev swap should be looked at by Allvin, but it seems they don't want to pay a 1st for him. Likely there's another team that will.


Quoting: alwaysnextyear
I do get your rationale on this, but I'm not convinced the swap of Coleman for Garland is worth it for the Canucks if they have to give up a top prospect. Coleman's been very good offensively this year but Garland has been (an admittedly overpriced) part of a great 3rd line in VAN. He's playing very well under Tocchet's system even if it doesn't show as much on the scoreboard.

I still think a Myers for Tanev swap should be looked at by Allvin, but it seems they don't want to pay a 1st for him. Likely there's another team that will.


Good constructive post here. I appreciate that. I think Coleman is a big upgrade on Garland. Garland has played “better” but you still have him for another 3 years for a third line guy who doesn’t chip in much offensively. Coleman is showing his offensive ability and can play the physical style arguably better than Garland too. In my eyes that’s a big upgrade.

Myers is terrible defensively. Everyone has known this his whole career. Tanev has been a warrior and is known to elevate the play of anyone he’s paired with his entire career. There’s a reason there are 10 teams interested in the guy for playoffs. That also drives the price up. So when we look at things it’s about what the market dictates and based on competition for the player.

I think it would be a lot to give up but it would make your chances at raising the big mug so much better this year. This is the year the Nucks seem to be going for it so might as well give yourselves the best chances you can.
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Right but when there’s 10 teams interested then the price goes up. Do you think the price Vancouver paid was the price that Lindholm was “said to get”? Nope Vancouver wanted him so they paid the price to get him.


You're absolutely correct; however, the Canucks don't want or need Tanev that bad. They're especially not going to be interested in moving out size at the deadline. As mystifying as Myers is to almost everyone, he's a giant who the coaching staff love. He's also a $6M expiring contract that can probably be signed for less next season. That's an attractive piece for some teams, like the Canucks.
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Right but when there’s 10 teams interested then the price goes up. Do you think the price Vancouver paid was the price that Lindholm was “said to get”? Nope Vancouver wanted him so they paid the price to get him.


If thats the price then we'll pass, Lekkeriamaki is off the table no matter what. Sorry, your kidding yourself if you think they'd trade him in that package, let alone at all. "10 teams interseted" Dont you think he'd be traded by now if there was 10 teams interested? Enjoy the 2nd round pick youll get for Tanev
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Quoting: canucksfan43
If thats the price then we'll pass, Lekkeriamaki is off the table no matter what. Sorry, your kidding yourself if you think they'd trade him in that package, let alone at all. "10 teams interseted" Dont you think he'd be traded by now if there was 10 teams interested? Enjoy the 2nd round pick youll get for Tanev


I’ll take a bet on that every day that we get more than a 2nd for Tanev. I guess you don’t understand how markets work. 10 teams interested means you talk back and forth to see what teams are willing to offer. It also includes patience to wait for teams who maybe become more desperate. I’d say Quinn Hughes goes down for an extended time then what the Canucks are willing to give up probably changes. Thats just one example. You think Vancouver’s initial offer for Lindholm was what they ended up paying? There were tons of Nucks trade offers for Lindholm on here that were way less than what you paid for him.

It’s fine if the answer is no dude. No need to get so defensive about it. It sure doesn’t mean that Tanev is only worth a 2nd just because you’re not willing to pay the ask in this particular scenario.

Some of you guys on here need to chill. Ideas are things to be discussed. If you aren’t able to do it in constructive ways maybe this site isn’t for you wink
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I’ll take a bet on that every day that we get more than a 2nd for Tanev. I guess you don’t understand how markets work. 10 teams interested means you talk back and forth to see what teams are willing to offer. It also includes patience to wait for teams who maybe become more desperate. I’d say Quinn Hughes goes down for an extended time then what the Canucks are willing to give up probably changes. Thats just one example. You think Vancouver’s initial offer for Lindholm was what they ended up paying? There were tons of Nucks trade offers for Lindholm on here that were way less than what you paid for him.

It’s fine if the answer is no dude. No need to get so defensive about it. It sure doesn’t mean that Tanev is only worth a 2nd just because you’re not willing to pay the ask in this particular scenario.

Some of you guys on here need to chill. Ideas are things to be discussed. If you aren’t able to do it in constructive ways maybe this site isn’t for you wink


Dont get me wrong, I'd love to have Tanev back. I thought it was beyond dumb when the Canucks didnt resign him. But, theres a good chance he'd be a pure rental if they brought him back with having to sign Petey Hronek and now Lindholm above him. Trading Lekkeriamaki for a rental would be so shortsighted for my liking idk what i'd think. Maybe a desperate team will give up an arm and a leg for Tanev, but I dont think itll be VAN and if it was he likely would've been in the Lindholm trade
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So the reported price for Tanev is a 1st rounder. That means that we'll be giving up Garland, Meyers, Lekkerimaki and a 4th for Coleman?


And no one has yet been willing to pay a 1st hahah
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Quoting: BigShoots
And no one has yet been willing to pay a 1st hahah


Ha!! That's even worse!
 
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