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fair blockbuster from ottawas perspective

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Équipe: 2024-25 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 31 janv. 2024
Publié: 31 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Credit to @GreyGhost24 for this trade idea.

The fair blockbuster is the Rangers deal, the Saros deal I just thought of and would need some feedback to see if its realistic.
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UFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
44 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [Droits de RFA]
  2. Othmann, Brennan
  3. Schneider, Braden [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Trade done at the 2024 trade deadline.

Vladimir Tarasenko 50% retained is sent to New York in the deal.
2.
3.
NSH
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Järventie, Roby
  3. Korpisalo, Joonas
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Korpisalo doesn't provide any value to the deal but he's a half-decent placeholder for until Askarov becomes the starter.

Preds can either keep Brannstrom or trade him for a 2nd/3rd.
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 3
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DG
RFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
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AG
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DD
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31 janv. à 16 h 11
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I don't think that gets Ottawa Saros.
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31 janv. à 16 h 12
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massive overpay for Saros, if your spending more than a 2nd on any G, your overpaying
31 janv. à 16 h 12
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rangers won't have the cap and now no future
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31 janv. à 16 h 12
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massive overpay for Saros, if your spending more than a 2nd on any G, your overpaying


lol. I could take this package as compensation for cap dumping the career backup on a 4x4

even then, nothing in this package is at all enticing aside from the 1st and 2nd which I’m taking as compensation for korpisalo.
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31 janv. à 16 h 13
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I don’t think any team would want Hamonic might have to bury him in the AHL if you don’t play him
31 janv. à 16 h 14
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Better chance zeitsev gets resigned at 8x8 than OTT trading Pinto, and all of chych, senko and Pinto would command a 1st+ so NYR is severely fleecing OTT here.
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31 janv. à 16 h 18
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Quoting: athrin
massive overpay for Saros, if your spending more than a 2nd on any G, your overpaying


Not Saros.
31 janv. à 16 h 18
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Quoting: athrin
massive overpay for Saros, if your spending more than a 2nd on any G, your overpaying


Seems quite wrong
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31 janv. à 16 h 18
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lol. I could take this package as compensation for cap dumping the career backup on a 4x4

even then, nothing in this package is at all enticing aside from the 1st and 2nd which I’m taking as compensation for korpisalo.


Korpisalo can just be bought out.
31 janv. à 16 h 19
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Not Saros.


name a G any G if your spending more than a 2nd your overpaying, Swayman? more than a 2nd your overpaying, Ullmark? more than a 2nd your overpaying
31 janv. à 16 h 19
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Quoting: athrin
Better chance zeitsev gets resigned at 8x8 than OTT trading Pinto, and all of chych, senko and Pinto would command a 1st+ so NYR is severely fleecing OTT here.


Schneider is worth a first, Othmann is probably worth a first, Kakko has potential but not much current value, plus we'd be getting an actual first and a second. It's definitely enough.
31 janv. à 16 h 20
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Korpisalo can just be bought out.


You’d still need to compensate a team to take on 16m for a goalie they don’t beed. Buyout or not
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31 janv. à 16 h 21
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You’d still need to compensate a team to take on 16m for a goalie they don’t beed. Buyout or not


Well, if the acquiring team bought him out it would only cost $10.6 million but yeah you're right.
31 janv. à 16 h 24
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massive overpay for Saros, if your spending more than a 2nd on any G, your overpaying


Quoting: athrin
name a G any G if your spending more than a 2nd your overpaying, Swayman? more than a 2nd your overpaying, Ullmark? more than a 2nd your overpaying


You’re right. Why spend assets career top 5 goalies in the NHL when you can sign leftovers in free agency to 4x4? It’s practically free! He definitely won’t post an…. .888……

Nashville declines. All filler no quality
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31 janv. à 16 h 31
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You’re right. Why spend assets career top 5 goalies in the NHL when you can sign leftovers in free agency to 4x4? It’s practically free! He definitely won’t post an…. .888……

Nashville declines. All filler no quality


Saros this year is well below average, in fact it is his worst season by far and its not close and all his good season are on one team, zero guarantee he will be any good when he goes to another team.

G are to volatile and unpredictable to have any semblance of value like the other positions, just look at Jack Campbell ffs....
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31 janv. à 16 h 34
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in fact it is his worst season by far and its not close and all his good season are on one team, zero guarantee he will be any good when he goes to another team....


What? Lol. What does him being on Nashville have to do with anything? He's the reason our team even made the playoffs half of those years - or got close to it. We've sucked.

I don't know where the Campbell comparison has come from, everyone knew he was a career backup but the team that signed him. Saros isn't.

You keep your wacky ideas that goalies are only worth 2nd's (that nobody agrees with) and we'll keep our good goalie.
31 janv. à 16 h 34
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Schneider is worth a first, Othmann is probably worth a first, Kakko has potential but not much current value, plus we'd be getting an actual first and a second. It's definitely enough.


so who do you remove from the NYR side since OTT will never trade Pinto
31 janv. à 16 h 39
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What? Lol. What does him being on Nashville have to do with anything? He's the reason our team even made the playoffs half of those years - or got close to it. We've sucked.

I don't know where the Campbell comparison has come from, everyone knew he was a career backup but the team that signed him. Saros isn't.

You keep your wacky ideas that goalies are only worth 2nd's (that nobody agrees with) and we'll keep our good goalie.


keep him, OTT wont overpay for G and no team should, don't need a "top 5" G to win a cup
31 janv. à 16 h 39
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keep him, OTT wont overpay for G and no team should, don't need a "top 5" G to win a cup


Lmao, seems you already did with Korpisalo. Enjoy your backup goalie for 3 more years.
31 janv. à 16 h 43
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Lmao, seems you already did with Korpisalo. Enjoy your backup goalie for 3 more years.


dont know why you using korpi here, sens fans hated the singing and knew he wasn't that good.. just because because dorion is an idiot don't negate that if you spending more than a 2nd your overpaying, why the hell do you think G like saros very very rarely get traded?

1. team don't want to trade them
2. no one is willing to offer high end piece on such a volatile position

OTT and EDM are screwed with bad G on lengthy bad contracts
31 janv. à 16 h 46
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so who do you remove from the NYR side since OTT will never trade Pinto


That's irrelevant, this is a hypothetical trade.
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You’re right. Why spend assets career top 5 goalies in the NHL when you can sign leftovers in free agency to 4x4? It’s practically free! He definitely won’t post an…. .888……

Nashville declines. All filler no quality


Athrin is half-right, the Predators can either sign Saros to a massive deal or trade him for 75 cents on the dollar. When was the last time a goalie got a great return in a trade?
31 janv. à 16 h 48
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Athrin is half-right, the Predators can either sign Saros to a massive deal or trade him for 75 cents on the dollar. When was the last time a goalie got a great return in a trade?


stopped reading after you said he was right. dudes a known homer
31 janv. à 16 h 49
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stopped reading after you said he was right. dudes a known homer


Trust me, I disagree with his takes as much as anyone but my point stands about goalies never getting good returns.
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dont know why you using korpi here, sens fans hated the singing and knew he wasn't that good.. just because because dorion is an idiot don't negate that if you spending more than a 2nd your overpaying, why the hell do you think G like saros very very rarely get traded?

1. team don't want to trade them
2. no one is willing to offer high end piece on such a volatile position

OTT and EDM are screwed with bad G on lengthy bad contracts


Just because teams don't want to trade their good goalies doesn't automatically make their value a second. You just made that up in your own head cannon fantasy world.

You want to pry Saros from Nashville? A 1st+. If not, have a good day. Simple
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