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Créé par: Dom1422
Publié: 27 janv. à 12 h 56
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 82/192 (43%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

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DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dvorak, ChristianCanadiens de MontréalIR-4 450 000 $011---25347--
Guhle, KaidenExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalLNH-863 333 $011---443811--
Farrell, SeanExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Pettersson, EliasCanucks de VancouverLNH-7 350 000 $011---48253661--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial4 504 167 $2346734916
Variation-2 036 667 $0-2-2-1-20
Final2 467 500 $ (↓)2344 (↓)71 (↓)3 (↓)7 (↓)16192443

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Pettersson, EliasCanucks de VancouverLNH-7 350 000 $011---48253661--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dvorak, ChristianCanadiens de MontréalIR-4 450 000 $011---25347--
Guhle, KaidenExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalLNH-863 333 $011---443811--
Farrell, SeanExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial332 500 $2346683312
Variation2 036 667 $022120
Final2 369 167 $ (↑)2348 (↑)70 (↑)4 (↑)5 (↑)12-19-24-43
27 janv. à 12 h 57
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Canucks draft Konsta Helenius with the Habs 1st rounder.
27 janv. à 14 h 19
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Canucks decline. This isn't half near the value...
27 janv. à 15 h 19
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I think Canucks need a center prospect, so throw in Beck on top of all that and then I believe it's fair
27 janv. à 17 h 24
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Modifié 27 janv. à 17 h 30
Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
Canucks decline. This isn't half near the value...


Really? A top 5 pick, a #2/#3 D and two 2nds? Seems more than fair imo. That top 5 pick alone is worth a **** ton.
27 janv. à 17 h 24
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I think Canucks need a center prospect, so throw in Beck on top of all that and then I believe it's fair


They’ll get their centre with the top 5 pick.
27 janv. à 18 h 4
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They’ll get their centre with the top 5 pick.


I agree but vancouver is ready to compete now, so I bet they want a prospect that's a little ahead
27 janv. à 18 h 22
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Quoting: NotAHabsFan
I agree but vancouver is ready to compete now, so I bet they want a prospect that's a little ahead


Definitely. Only other option is including Dach instead of Guhle. Though I will say Dvorak was a 2c under Tochett in Arizona and that was his best seaosn. They have JT Miller who can be your 1st line C and that might be okay until the C prospect (top 5 pick) arrives. Either way they’re going to take a hit when/if they trade Pettersson. Nobody is going to give them a player who instantly replaces his production. Any deal will likely be for futures.
27 janv. à 18 h 53
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no thx, hes good, but not that good
27 janv. à 19 h 54
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no thx, hes good, but not that good


He’d be the best player we’ve had in a few decades and the first 100 point player we’ve had in what, 4 decades?
28 janv. à 14 h 14
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Really? A top 5 pick, a #2/#3 D and two 2nds? Seems more than fair imo. That top 5 pick alone is worth a **** ton.


This does not help Vancouver at all in the position we're in. We lose a PPG center/winger, who plays a very good 200 foot game. For magic beans in the draft picks, someone who will be a 3rd liner for us, and another guy who would be stuck right in the middle of our defensive depth chart. The value alone isn't even close to fair.

A starting point would be the 2024 1st, one of either Reinbacher or Slav, then one of either Guhle or Dach. Opposite positions for the last two here.

But you're a habs fan so I'll assume you'll laugh and say this is far too much.

But Petey is a top 15 forward in the NHL. You don't get those for handmedowns
28 janv. à 15 h 2
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This does not help Vancouver at all in the position we're in. We lose a PPG center/winger, who plays a very good 200 foot game. For magic beans in the draft picks, someone who will be a 3rd liner for us, and another guy who would be stuck right in the middle of our defensive depth chart. The value alone isn't even close to fair.

A starting point would be the 2024 1st, one of either Reinbacher or Slav, then one of either Guhle or Dach. Opposite positions for the last two here.

But you're a habs fan so I'll assume you'll laugh and say this is far too much.

But Petey is a top 15 forward in the NHL. You don't get those for handmedowns


You think you’re getting a top 5 pick, Slafkovsky/Reinbacher and Guhle/Dach for Pettersson? You realize no player in the history of the nhl has ever been traded for that much? Ever lol.
28 janv. à 16 h 14
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You think you’re getting a top 5 pick, Slafkovsky/Reinbacher and Guhle/Dach for Pettersson? You realize no player in the history of the nhl has ever been traded for that much? Ever lol.


Wayne Gretkzy, Eric Lindros, Jack Eichel to name a few.

I'm sorry but your teams assets are not worth as much as you think they are lmfao. Anything short of what I mentioned for Petey is completely insane, and if you think that then you are FAR FAR over valuing the assets your team could be trading. You don't get a top 15 center in the NHL for 2 seconds, a top pick, a second pairing guy, and a 3rd liner.
28 janv. à 16 h 38
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Modifié 28 janv. à 17 h 13
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Wayne Gretkzy, Eric Lindros, Jack Eichel to name a few.

I'm sorry but your teams assets are not worth as much as you think they are lmfao. Anything short of what I mentioned for Petey is completely insane, and if you think that then you are FAR FAR over valuing the assets your team could be trading. You don't get a top 15 center in the NHL for 2 seconds, a top pick, a second pairing guy, and a 3rd liner.


Wayne Gretzky wasn’t even traded for that much (minus the 10 mill because it’s irrelevant, Montreal could give them 100 mill right now for Pettersson if it weee allowed) Hell even if Gretzky were traded for that much, Pettersson isn’t worth even half of what Gretzky was worth… Eichel? Are you out of your mind? He was traded for a 3rd liner and a prospect who was drafted in the teens who hadn’t shown great progression. Not even in the same stratosphere.. Buffalo fans hated that trade and so did everyone. If the Canucks got this return it would break the internet.
28 janv. à 18 h 29
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Wayne Gretzky wasn’t even traded for that much (minus the 10 mill because it’s irrelevant, Montreal could give them 100 mill right now for Pettersson if it weee allowed) Hell even if Gretzky were traded for that much, Pettersson isn’t worth even half of what Gretzky was worth… Eichel? Are you out of your mind? He was traded for a 3rd liner and a prospect who was drafted in the teens who hadn’t shown great progression. Not even in the same stratosphere.. Buffalo fans hated that trade and so did everyone. If the Canucks got this return it would break the internet.


Okay I've grown to come to the understanding that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Good day to you
28 janv. à 21 h 12
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Okay I've grown to come to the understanding that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Good day to you


that makes two of you with no clue.
28 janv. à 21 h 58
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Modifié 28 janv. à 23 h 59
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Okay I've grown to come to the understanding that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Good day to you


You can come better than that man. What you’re suggesting would have to be the offer is insane. Pettersson is a superstar and the cost would be incredibly high, but the offer you’re suggesting exceeds that. Two A level pieces (the top 5 pick and Guhle) on top of multiple B level assets is more than fair. Some might say that is paying a little to much, though I disagree.
28 janv. à 22 h 4
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that makes two of you with no clue.


Pot meet kettle.
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Pot meet kettle.


it sure does
 
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