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Unrealistic TDL options

Créé par: Oilers_29
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 26 janv. 2024
Publié: 26 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
NJD
  1. Janmark, Mattias
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Larsson, Adam (2 000 000 $ retained)
SEA
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Maybe it’s an overpay but definitely an upgrade
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $81 166 667 $850 000 $4 200 000 $2 333 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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0 $0 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 225 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance325 000 $$325K)
AD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 2

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26 janv. à 15 h 54
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1st+3rd, 1st+Foegele, 1st+Broberg for 50% toffoli, take your pick
26 janv. à 15 h 55
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Also Edmonton is 100% on Larssons no trade list
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Quoting: dgibb10
1st+3rd, 1st+Foegele, 1st+Broberg for 50% toffoli, take your pick


Implying that Foegele & Broberg are equal to a 3rd is nuts.
Foegele is currently breaking out & Broberg is about to.

Foegele+3rd or Broberg+3rd is more like it tbh! Just look to the trade that got NJD Toffoli(Sharangovich+3rd with a full year). Seeing as Toffoli is a rental he's gonna fetch less. I propose the same return WITH retention.
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26 janv. à 16 h 9
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Implying that Foegele & Broberg are equal to a 3rd is nuts.
Foegele is currently breaking out & Broberg is about to.

Foegele+3rd or Broberg+3rd is more like it tbh! Just look to the trade that got NJD Toffoli(Sharangovich+3rd with the extra year). Seeing as Toffoli is a rental he's gonna fetch less. I propose the same return WITH retention.


Yegor was valued significantly more than either of those guys, Toffoli is on pace for another 35 goal season, and you’re asking for 50% retention.

If you can sell Foegele or Broberg for more than a 3rd or value them higher, that’s more than acceptable. I value them there, and that is why I offered you the simple alternative of 1st+3rd. Because it takes the bias out of it since there is no attachment to the player/prospect
26 janv. à 16 h 12
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Yegor was valued significantly more than either of those guys, Toffoli is on pace for another 35 goal season, and you’re asking for 50% retention.

If you can sell Foegele or Broberg for more than a 3rd or value them higher, that’s more than acceptable. I value them there, and that is why I offered you the simple alternative of 1st+3rd. Because it takes the bias out of it since there is no attachment to the player/prospect


1. Your evaluation that $2,125,000 retention is worth a 3rd for a rental is too high.
2. I have no doubt that Toffoli fetches a 1st.
3. I think you're undervaluing Foegele & Broberg.
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26 janv. à 16 h 15
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1. Your evaluation that $2,125,000 retention is worth a 3rd for a rental is too high.
2. I have no doubt that Toffoli fetches a 1st.
3. I think you're undervaluing Foegele & Broberg.


1. My comp is Kane retention for a 3rd, but I’m not going to get too held up over the secondary piece as long as a 1st is involved
2. I agree
3. Maybe I’m wrong there but that’s why I always try to include a pick/value comparable that I’d be happy with swapping in instead
26 janv. à 16 h 18
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Quoting: dgibb10
1st+3rd, 1st+Foegele, 1st+Broberg for 50% toffoli, take your pick


Ahahaha that’s funny hard noooooo holland won’t play a first for a rental lmao
26 janv. à 16 h 22
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Ahahaha that’s funny hard noooooo holland won’t play a first for a rental lmao


Then you’ll struggle to get quality rentals, especially since you desperately need retention or a cap dump to fit any of them
26 janv. à 16 h 24
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Quoting: dgibb10
1st+3rd, 1st+Foegele, 1st+Broberg for 50% toffoli, take your pick


I’m sorry not trying to be a dick but this is an extremely delusional comment there’s just no way you could actually think those packages would be fair for the oilers I understand you want overpays for the rentals but atleast try to be some what fair and sometimes two 2nds have more value than a first
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I’m sorry not trying to be a dick but this is an extremely delusional comment there’s just no way you could actually think those packages would be fair for the oilers I understand you want overpays for the rentals but atleast try to be some what fair and sometimes two 2nds have more value than a first


Yeah if they’re high 2nd rounders.

A 2026 2nd from Edmonton is equivalent to a 2024 3rd in my eyes.

The comps are out there to justify the packages I have asked for.

If you aren’t willing to part with a 1st you should probably move on
26 janv. à 16 h 53
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Yeah if they’re high 2nd rounders.

A 2026 2nd from Edmonton is equivalent to a 2024 3rd in my eyes.

The comps are out there to justify the packages I have asked for.

If you aren’t willing to part with a 1st you should probably move on

A 2026 2nd is equivalent to a 2024 3rd like what are you talking about that doesn’t even make any sense.
Toffoli isn’t gonna return a 1st but ur to delusional so you think otherwise which is fine good luck at the TDL
26 janv. à 17 h 4
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A 2026 2nd is equivalent to a 2024 3rd like what are you talking about that doesn’t even make any sense.
Toffoli isn’t gonna return a 1st but ur to delusional so you think otherwise which is fine good luck at the TDL


Value is lower on a pick we have to wait 3 years on.

2026 second, probably 3 more years until he’s ready. It’ll be 2029 before that pick provides us any value.
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Value is lower on a pick we have to wait 3 years on.

2026 second, probably 3 more years until he’s ready. It’ll be 2029 before that pick provides us any value.


Yeah but who knows maybe it isn’t a late 2nd round pick who knows if Edmonton is gonna be good in 3 years nhl is too competitive to predict that.

And the idea of saying the value is lower because it’s 3 years away is just wrong cause the devils can also trade that pick still
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Yeah but who knows maybe it isn’t a late 2nd round pick who knows if Edmonton is gonna be good in 3 years nhl is too competitive to predict that.

And the idea of saying the value is lower because it’s 3 years away is just wrong cause the devils can also trade that pick still


Connor McDavid’s contract will still be running for that year. So I will treat it as a late pick for that year in terms of trade value.
26 janv. à 17 h 12
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Connor McDavid’s contract will still be running for that year. So I will treat it as a late pick for that year in terms of trade value.


Ok and the oilers missed the playoffs 2017-2018 and 2018-2019 this league is way to competitive to predict the future. Just because a pick is 3 years away doesn’t mean the value goes down and I bet you have no idea which players are even in that draft class so honestly I don’t really think you know what ur talking about
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….sometimes two 2nds have more value than a first


Nope, not really
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….this league is way to competitive to predict the future. Just because a pick is 3 years away doesn’t mean the value goes down


Not being able to “predict” when the pick will be is just ONE of the MULTIPLE reasons that picks years in the future are less valuable

Wow
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Not being able to “predict” when the pick will be is just ONE of the MULTIPLE reasons that picks years in the future are less valuable

Wow

Whats wrong with you like are u ok?
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Whats wrong with you like are u ok?


Idk what to tell ya
Clearly u needed that explained to you
 
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