As much as I like spurgeon. this would not be a good trade long term for EDM. The cap complication in that time with Dri and bouchard EXT plus Mdavid. the 7M will make it very tough at that point.

What do you mean? They dumped the Campbell contract (which there’s no chance Minnesota does that anyways)

agreed Minnesota wouldnt do that.

It adds 2 million more in cap down the road with Dri who will get a huge raise probably in the 13M range and bouchard who is having a career year at a point per game... have to think that will be 7.5-9M range at least. that eats up 20-22M and a roster of 10 players. now with the remaining 18-20M you need to sign 11-13 players including 2 top 6 fwds and a goalie. also have to keep in mind mcdavid and skinner raise the follow year which will be what 15M and 4-5 M for skinner.

what I am saying is don't need the extra 2 mill tide up in an aging defenseman... will cause big headaches.

I worked the deal out with Minnesota Wild fans. The talk is that he's not worth such a massive deal and they need to maneuver around their $14.5M buyouts to Parise and Suter. The buyout between Campbell and Spurgeon is similar in value, but they recoup assets in this case and get a one-year stopgap in Ceci while they're still retooling.

The risk is more Edmonton's but the focus of the goal is to juice the last bit of usefulness out of Spurgeon over the next two seasons before considering jettisoning him via buyoutor other means. He should pair exceptionally well with Nurse and if it means a cup or two in the next two years, I don't care about year three or four of the deal.

It's virtually a deal for the next two years before the Draisaitl extension is due. I won't pretend to assume the cap could accommodate by then but Edmonton can accommodate his buyout then much better than they can afford Campbell's this summer. If it means a cup or two within this two year window, I'm taking it every day. I don't think a better deal to get rid of Campbell exists.

The deal was arranged with fans of the Wild. The buyouts between Spurgeon and Campbell are comparable and due to their dead cap situation, may be forced to buy out Spurgeon. It seems like an opportune way to get rid of Campbell.

Compare the buyout on Spurgeon to Campbell’s buyout. And you will see why the Oilers shouldn’t make this move.

I see what you are saying. he could provide value in that time. What I am seeing is the buyout is almost 2X what campbells is though so can still cause a problem long term.

That is a problem for when the salary cap is significantly higher than where it is today. The focus is where the Oilers are today and next summer. The Oilers can't really afford to buy out Campbell and eat Brown's bonus at the same time if they also intend to upgrade their top-4 RHD. This defers the need to accumulate that dead cap for what will likely be two seasons.

We don't know if Connor and Leon are here after three years. We know they are here for the next two. The only focus should be to maximize the odds of winning in that window. Cross the Spurgeon bridge in year three when you have to.

Weirdly enough, I don't hate this

I don't find next year an issue at all even with a buy out and browns bonus. if you are up grading the Top 4 RHD your moving Ceci out to create space. If you want to keep dri and mcdavid as katz would love too seeing how with them the oilers bring in the most revenue in the league and the franchise value is up to 1.6B. would katz like a cup yeah he probably would. would he prefer to make sure he has room for his cash cows would be a bigger drive. hence bringing in mcdavid agent and old coach... its not a coincidence.

the odds of either of them moving is very slim. the only teams that could offered them are at the bottom of the league. or would have to gut their team to fit them in. the best option for both money and a chance to win is EDM. and the team needs to plan accordingly.

the Spurgeon trade complicates all of this and you can find other options at a easier to handle price tag. keep space for your stars long term while increasing the chance to win long term not just for 2 years.

Who is this specific target you are referring to that Edmonton can upgrade Ceci with? If we assume that Edmonton's cap situation is going to remain relatively unchanged thanks to Brown's bonuses and a Campbell buyout, Edmonton trades Kulak with no salary returned (Broberg to replace on a one-year, sub-$1M deal) and the sum dollar value of the forwards is unchanged, the Oilers will have about $6M to spend on a backup goaltender and their Ceci upgrade.

The only way that I see that working is if the incumbent RHD is a rental, as Edmonton is going to need retention to bring anyone notable in, no matter how cheap a backup they procure.

The example above doesn't have the same problem. Whatever money I clear from moving Kulak in lieu of Broberg (again same parameters that you get to work with, next years forwards cost the same) can be dumped on a backup and possibly a 23rd skater (about $1.6M). The math is easier to work with next year and gives Edmonton multiple years of having two top blueline pairings instead of burning assets to backfill the role year over year. I don't hate that option either but you cannot tell me that your solution is less complicated. I need three trades and a couple UFAs to get a 2024-25 roster to work. You would require more moves just to dodge a theoretical extra $2M in dead cap in year 3 (we've been conservative in thinking Spurgeon only lasts two years, maybe he would be LTIR instead of buyout?).

Totally open to making the math work but I still adamant that worrying about 2025-26 when we're yet to win anything is putting the cart before the horse.