never understood that move. traded hronek to spend big time money in FA and replace him with Petry and drafted ASP with the pick

i think he needs a game or two off personally

Yzerman probably wanted us to take Maatta back instead of him.

im hoping they can dump him in the offseason to make way for either kasper or danielson

That's the thing. Red Wings fans are raving about ASP's potential. But that's just what it is. Potential. There's no guarantee it'll translate to the NHL.

Meanwhile, Hronek has fit in very nicely playing with Hughes in Vancouver.

wouldnt mind seeing them try that out

this trade reminds me that sometimes it’s better to keep the player instead of moving him for a 1st

Playing tough minutes is a very valuable thing. But he's simply not succeeding in those minutes. Especially if he's without Walman.

John Marino plays very tough minutes too, and his partner is Kevin Bahl who certainly isn't on the level of Walman.

i think compher has worked out really well

I know Yzerman wasn't looking forward to having to pay RFA Hronek but they could sure use him right now.

You are victim to Walman's previous season.
Walman has been absolute ass-cheeks as of late. Like, really really bad.
Furthermore, comparing Marino's situation to Seider's is funny.

The devils send Marino out there to hard match with McDavid and Pastrnak, with a rookie on his pair at all times

Raymond can't even tie up his own skates without Larkin.

Are you not recognizing the fact that the Devil's are a significantly better team top-to-bottom?
????

Raymond has been one of our better players this season.

That says it all right there.

With a goalie in net who you have no idea where the rebound will end up on any given shot and Kevin Bahl as your partner, the job isn't easy

i think Seider is more than capable of being a number one "elite" defenceman he just needs help, look at makar with byram or toews, if you toss either of them on his left side i dont think we are having this conversation, not to mention Seider is only 22 being asked to do basically everything and has lots of time to improve

I think the Yzerplan is draft and develop. All of these players I believe to be placeholders. Still need to ice a team.
On those contacts, yeah not great. I didn't move the Maatta extension, he's alright. The Chiarot contract though, I hated it then, I hate it more now. Compher was okay in my opinion, the market dictated that one. That is also the case with Chiarot. Look at his free agent class, not alot of anyone available, likely had to overpay. I would have preferred more money with shorter term. Petry trade was just cause we needed another righty and he was cheap. Holl I was expecting more with him being in a lesser roll, a bit disappointing.
It's not worth paying to move them and the buy-outs are still too long.
Looking at the free agent class this year, not alot available either. Roy is the only one that interests me. I would sign Tanev if he goes the market but man, that would be another bad contract I bet. I also feel like he extends with the team he gets traded to.
There are literally 9 defensemen this year that interest me, most will be signed and if not we'll want too big of deals.

I think he has the potential too for sure and can certainly still develop, but he isn't that right now and the league wide narrative is that he is

since the kane signing he doesnt seem to have the same drive he did earlier this year

Oh yeah, forgot that Detroit's goaltending situation is significantly better! (It's not).

He's actually been good, though.

The team is guilty of deferring to Kane. You especially notice it on the power play. Making that extra pass to Kane when the better scoring opportunity is right there.

Good for him. Better than last season. But do you really notice Raymond when he's not playing with Larkin?

Personally, I'd have bigger aspirations for a 4th overall pick than being a 55-60 point player.