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Deal. But we'd also love to get Broberg, if possible.

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 10

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The Oilers barely give up enough to dump Campbell let alone get Duclair and Blackwood.

seravalli reported that it would probably only take a 1st and 3rd to dump campbell not 2 1st + prospects like everyone has in their heads, add broberg who still has potential to be something and upgrade that 3rd to a 2nd and you most likely get blackwood idk about duclair tho maybe another pick or prospect like lavoie or XB

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 15

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Deal. But we'd also love to get Broberg, if possible.

you think they would do vrana @50% for broberg 1 for 1, I like broberg and think he can still be a great D-man but man do the oilers suck at properly developing prospects Broberg-Bouchard was my dream pair of the future but I don't trust holland to over-see his development anymore after the whole trade debacle, I hope he goes somewhere where he proves what he can do with the trust of the coach and gm

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11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 21

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I think You’re paying too much for Vrana. He was an hour away from going on the waiver wire for free. He was acquired for a 7th round pick cause Yzerman couldn’t wait to get rid of him. And now the blues can’t wait to get rid of him.

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11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 22

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you think they would do vrana 50% for broberg 1 for 1, I like broberg and think he can still be a great D-man but man do the oilers suck at properly developing prospects Broberg-Bouchard was my dream pair of the future but I don't trust holland to over-see his development anymore after the whole trade debacle, I hope he goes somewhere where he proves what he can do with the trust of the coach and gm

I have to think they would do that in a heartbeat.

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11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 23

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Quoting: BouchBomb

seravalli reported that it would probably only take a 1st and 3rd to dump campbell not 2 1st + prospects like everyone has in their heads, add broberg who still has potential to be something and upgrade that 3rd to a 2nd and you most likely get blackwood idk about duclair tho maybe another pick or prospect like lavoie or XB

Heh. Seravalli is dreaming.

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 25

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Quoting: BouchBomb

seravalli reported that it would probably only take a 1st and 3rd to dump campbell not 2 1st + prospects like everyone has in their heads, add broberg who still has potential to be something and upgrade that 3rd to a 2nd and you most likely get blackwood idk about duclair tho maybe another pick or prospect like lavoie or XB

2024 1st plus a 3rd. a 24 2nd plus 25 1st is slightly more but not much, and he can say all he wants but if that’s all it took he’d be gone by now!
I’ve heard from sources outside the Oilers insiders it’s more like 1 1sts or a 1st plus a prospect, and Broberg value has fallen to be fair, he 100% isn’t worth Duclair and Blackwood.

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 27

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Quoting: mokumboi

Heh. Seravalli is dreaming.

No he’s just more informed than people around here.

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 30

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2024 1st plus a 3rd. a 24 2nd plus 25 1st is slightly more but not much, and he can say all he wants but if that’s all it took he’d be gone by now!
I’ve heard from sources outside the Oilers insiders it’s more like 1 1sts or a 1st plus a prospect, and Broberg value has fallen to be fair, he 100% isn’t worth Duclair and Blackwood.

First of all Serravelli isn’t an Oilers insider. He’s from Philly, worked for TSN, and is a national insider. Second of all, if Frank’s reported cost was the cost the Oilers would still say no. Cause buying out Campbell is an easy option to make. And there’s no goaltender emergency in Edmonton any more. Both Skinner and Pickard are doing fine behind this improved Defence.

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 33

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No he’s just more informed than people around here.

Heh. That's like saying he's taller than Grogu. Not exactly saying much there.

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11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 34

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Heh. That's like saying he's taller than Grogu. Not exactly saying much there.

Lol true. But cmon he’s obviously connected and informed. If anyone knows the values being kicked around it’s him and Friedman.

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 35

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I think You’re paying too much for Vrana. He was an hour away from going on the waiver wire for free. He was acquired for a 7th round pick cause Yzerman couldn’t wait to get rid of him. And now the blues can’t wait to get rid of him.

knowing ken holland he would still try to pay for vrana like he did with keith when he wanted to be in canada but VAN and CGY didn't want him so kenny paid C.Jones and a 3rd which allowed CHI to sign seth jones then nurse used that as a comparable to get his $, God i still hate him for that nurse bridge

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 38

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Lol true. But cmon he’s obviously connected and informed. If anyone knows the values being kicked around it’s him and Friedman.

You're killin' me, man. Friedman is waaay worse than Seravalli, who actually does get some things right on occasion. But he also suffers from tell-them-what-they-want-to-hear disease regarding Canadian teams sometimes, and just flat gets a lot of American teams dead wrong (the Blues are one of those teams). But hey if you can find a team to take Campbell for a 1st and 3rd, more power to ya. I just wouldn;t go expecting that outcome.

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 43

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You're killin' me, man. Friedman is waaay worse than Seravalli, who actually does get some things right on occasion. But he also suffers from tell-them-what-they-want-to-hear disease regarding Canadian teams sometimes, and just flat gets a lot of American teams dead wrong (the Blues are one of those teams). But hey if you can find a team to take Campbell for a 1st and 3rd, more power to ya. I just wouldn;t go expecting that outcome.

I wouldn’t expect that cause I expected the Oilers to just stay the course. There’s no emergency reason to dump Campbell at this point, our goaltending has looked stellar recently. It makes no sense to pay up to dump Campbell, so we can do what? Go get a goaltender that won’t even be better than Skinner? Cause those are the types of goaltenders that are available on the market

11 déc. 2023 à 21 h 48

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I wouldn’t expect that cause I expected the Oilers to just stay the course. There’s no emergency reason to dump Campbell at this point, our goaltending has looked stellar recently. It makes no sense to pay up to dump Campbell, so we can do what? Go get a goaltender that won’t even be better than Skinner? Cause those are the types of goaltenders that are available on the market

the oilers need someone to split the net with skinner before they burn him out again just like last year and pickard has played 1 game and looked good but his career numbers show that he is nothing more than an organizations great #3, trying to play him as a 1B until playoffs doesn't seem like a recipe for success there is no rush for a goalie now and other teams know it so maybe they won't high ball the oilers as much knowing they are not that desperate to move jack, Now might be the lowest it's going to cost to dump campbell so might as well get it over with

11 déc. 2023 à 22 h 1

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Deal. But we'd also love to get Broberg, if possible.

Just wait until the summer when he is non tendered

11 déc. 2023 à 22 h 6

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Just wait until the summer when he is non tendered

delusional if you truly think that

11 déc. 2023 à 22 h 14

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delusional if you truly think that

You value him only becuase he was picked in the top 10. You passed on Zegras, Boldy, Knight, York and harley. He has played almost and entire NHL season and gotten 11pts in Edmonton which is really amazing. He has not been able to Crack a D core that is clearly not great despite beig a top 10 pick. RFA in the summer.

Other teams who did not waste a top 10 pick on him dont value 11 pts D men. His real asset is he is a RD.

A guy that Edmonton has more faith in is DESHARNAIS based on his usage and his production has been at least as good as Broberg and no one would see him as a trade Sweetener

11 déc. 2023 à 22 h 15

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I wouldn’t expect that cause I expected the Oilers to just stay the course. There’s no emergency reason to dump Campbell at this point, our goaltending has looked stellar recently. It makes no sense to pay up to dump Campbell, so we can do what? Go get a goaltender that won’t even be better than Skinner? Cause those are the types of goaltenders that are available on the market

Fair enough.

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11 déc. 2023 à 22 h 15

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Just wait until the summer when he is non tendered

Would rather have him now.

11 déc. 2023 à 22 h 38

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You value him only becuase he was picked in the top 10. You passed on Zegras, Boldy, Knight, York and harley. He has played almost and entire NHL season and gotten 11pts in Edmonton which is really amazing. He has not been able to Crack a D core that is clearly not great despite beig a top 10 pick. RFA in the summer.

Other teams who did not waste a top 10 pick on him dont value 11 pts D men. His real asset is he is a RD.

A guy that Edmonton has more faith in is DESHARNAIS based on his usage and his production has been at least as good as Broberg and no one would see him as a trade Sweetener

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You value him only becuase he was picked in the top 10. You passed on Zegras, Boldy, Knight, York and harley. He has played almost and entire NHL season and gotten 11pts in Edmonton which is really amazing. He has not been able to Crack a D core that is clearly not great despite beig a top 10 pick. RFA in the summer.

Other teams who did not waste a top 10 pick on him dont value 11 pts D men. His real asset is he is a RD.

A guy that Edmonton has more faith in is DESHARNAIS based on his usage and his production has been at least as good as Broberg and no one would see him as a trade Sweetener

No he’s valued cause he’s 6’4” and skates like the wind. He could step into a 3rd pair defensive D role today, his range and skating make him great at rush defence which is exactly what will be needed agains the Colorados of the world.

11 déc. 2023 à 22 h 42

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the oilers need someone to split the net with skinner before they burn him out again just like last year and pickard has played 1 game and looked good but his career numbers show that he is nothing more than an organizations great #3, trying to play him as a 1B until playoffs doesn't seem like a recipe for success there is no rush for a goalie now and other teams know it so maybe they won't high ball the oilers as much knowing they are not that desperate to move jack, Now might be the lowest it's going to cost to dump campbell so might as well get it over with

Quoting: BouchBomb

the oilers need someone to split the net with skinner before they burn him out again just like last year and pickard has played 1 game and looked good but his career numbers show that he is nothing more than an organizations great #3, trying to play him as a 1B until playoffs doesn't seem like a recipe for success there is no rush for a goalie now and other teams know it so maybe they won't high ball the oilers as much knowing they are not that desperate to move jack, Now might be the lowest it's going to cost to dump campbell so might as well get it over with

Quoting: BouchBomb

the oilers need someone to split the net with skinner before they burn him out again just like last year and pickard has played 1 game and looked good but his career numbers show that he is nothing more than an organizations great #3, trying to play him as a 1B until playoffs doesn't seem like a recipe for success there is no rush for a goalie now and other teams know it so maybe they won't high ball the oilers as much knowing they are not that desperate to move jack, Now might be the lowest it's going to cost to dump campbell so might as well get it over with

I could see Pickard doing it again and again. The Oilers D is elite right now giving up very little true high danger chances. But if Pickard can, maybe so can Campbell. There’s no rush.

Our negotiating position improves as the the year moves on and other teams seasons start falling apart. There’s a lot of overachieving teams in this young season right now that will fall back down to earth. Oilers will keep marching and when they comfortably in a Playoff spot they can look for a deal when they have a better idea of what they need.

13 déc. 2023 à 21 h 7

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No he’s valued cause he’s 6’4” and skates like the wind. He could step into a 3rd pair defensive D role today, his range and skating make him great at rush defence which is exactly what will be needed agains the Colorados of the world.

He could step into a 3rd pair today...except he's in the minors. If he was really ready would he not be in the NHL over superstars like gleason and desharnais?

13 déc. 2023 à 21 h 30

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