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Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 30 nov. 2023
Publié: 30 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Obviously this is in a NYI rebuild scenario. How did I do on the value?
Transactions
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NYI
  1. Hutson, Lane [Liste de réserve]
  2. Reinbacher, David
  3. Roy, Joshua
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Three A-level prospects (my opinion)
2 unprotected 1sts
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MTL
NYI
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Pearson, Tanner
  3. Savard, David
Détails additionnels:
Sent back to make the salary work
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2283 500 000 $77 697 916 $1 170 000 $4 267 500 $5 802 084 $
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
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775 000 $775 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
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766 667 $766 667 $
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UFA - 2
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890 000 $890 000 $
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950 000 $950 000 $
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30 nov. 2023 à 9 h 50
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Are you seroious with Lane Hutson..............................................................................
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30 nov. 2023 à 10 h 17
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Value seems fine imo.

Dobson is worth the mega haul. Barzal is a great add
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30 nov. 2023 à 10 h 56
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Why rush the timeline, because the Habs are somewhat succesful?
Be patient and continue on the course they are currently on.
30 nov. 2023 à 11 h 28
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Are you seroious with Lane Hutson..............................................................................


Cause, if one of Hutson or Reinbacher meet their ceiling, they will become Noah Dobson. I'm doubting that both of them will. there is a chance neither of them will. You have to pay a lot to get a sure thing.
30 nov. 2023 à 11 h 29
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Why rush the timeline, because the Habs are somewhat succesful?
Be patient and continue on the course they are currently on.


No. It's about opportunity to get young "sure thing" players for lottery tickets.
30 nov. 2023 à 11 h 33
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Cause, if one of Hutson or Reinbacher meet their ceiling, they will become Noah Dobson. I'm doubting that both of them will. there is a chance neither of them will. You have to pay a lot to get a sure thing.


What's Montreal will gonna/sould be in few years :

Guhle - Dman via trade of free agency
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Barron/Mailloux/Another Dman via trade or free agency.

So, I don't see the necessary to trade Reinbacher and Hutson for Dobson.............
30 nov. 2023 à 11 h 59
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What's Montreal will gonna/sould be in few years :

Guhle - Dman via trade of free agency
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Barron/Mailloux/Another Dman via trade or free agency.

So, I don't see the necessary to trade Reinbacher and Hutson for Dobson.............


Yeah I understand. But what if Hutson doesn't turn into "Frankenstein Adam Fox/Quinn Hughes"?
But what if Reinbacher doesn't turn into the next Seider?
What if Roy is only a 3rd liner?
What if our next 2 firsts are picked from the mushy middle?

This deal gets us young players entering their prime who are "sure thing" top line NHL'ers.
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30 nov. 2023 à 12 h 10
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Yeah I understand. But what if Hutson doesn't turn into "Frankenstein Adam Fox/Quinn Hughes"?
But what if Reinbacher doesn't turn into the next Seider?
What if Roy is only a 3rd liner?
What if our next 2 firsts are picked from the mushy middle?

This deal gets us young players entering their prime who are "sure thing" top line NHL'ers.


That's a lot of "ifs", The Habs are in a rebuild also. I don't see the point of never giving them a chance and saying let's give up on all these guys. I wouldn't do it.
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30 nov. 2023 à 12 h 16
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Yeah I understand. But what if Hutson doesn't turn into "Frankenstein Adam Fox/Quinn Hughes"?
But what if Reinbacher doesn't turn into the next Seider?
What if Roy is only a 3rd liner?
What if our next 2 firsts are picked from the mushy middle?

This deal gets us young players entering their prime who are "sure thing" top line NHL'ers.


Trading a high-celing potential prospect for a roster player isn't a good idea. We know what's the perfect example of that : Suzuki for Pacioretty.......
30 nov. 2023 à 12 h 38
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Trading a high-celing potential prospect for a roster player isn't a good idea. We know what's the perfect example of that : Suzuki for Pacioretty.......


Unless you think the ceiling of the young roster player is as high or higher than the potential ceiling of the prospect. Dobson is 23. Barzal is 26. This is tantamount to trading the 13th OA pick for Dach or the 1st and 2nd for Newhook, only we are getting 2 much better players.
30 nov. 2023 à 12 h 55
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if the isles were to rebuild, there is no way dobson is getting traded. The number 1 guy they trade in the need of a rebuild is brock nelson.
30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 44
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Rebuilding teams typically trade away their best young players, so this might happen.
 
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