Potential way to get Kane Hanifin

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Créé par: Slendermin

Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2023

Publié: 16 nov. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Not sure this is even a good idea, but it was a thought I had ... Leafs are in a unique position as they could care less what they have to pay Kane over the term of a longer contract. Realistically Kane probably knows it's unlikely he plays past next year and if he does, then great, you've got Patrick Kane for $3M. If not, he goes on LTIR and adds another $12M to his career earnings., which I'd expect is a lot higher in actual dollars than anyone else would offer him on a 1-2 year deal. Total guesswork, but I'd imagine someone will offer him $5-6M on a 1-year deal, maybe $4M x 2.

Hanifin seems to make sense for this team and Robertson may just be showing enough promise to finally get some value out of him. Not sure Calgary likes him though, so might have to be a bigger trade involving more parts (Liljegren and Zadorov maybe?).

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kane, Patrick		4	3 050 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Hanifin, Noah (2 475 000 $ retained)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)

CGY

Klingberg, John
Robertson, Nicholas
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)

Enfoui

Ryan Reaves: 200 000 $ (1 350 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	83 500 000 $	79 772 283 $	0 $	0 $	3 727 717 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Knies, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 2
Bertuzzi, Tyler 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 1	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Domi, Max 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kane, Patrick 3 050 000 $3 050 000 $ AD UFA - 1
McMann, Bobby 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Gregor, Noah 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya 3 550 000 $3 550 000 $ G UFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah -1 237 500 $-1 237 500 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	McCabe, Jake 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Woll, Joseph 766 667 $766 667 $ G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lagesson, William 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Timmins, Conor 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DD RFA - 2

Équipe de réserve
Benoit, Simon 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG UFA - 1

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 15

Kinger25

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Flames likely decline but if Robertson is getting traded this would be the trade I’d want, but Hanifin hasn’t been linked to the leafs once and likely won’t waive

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 17

Hckeydude123

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Calgary aint giving up Hanifin 50% retained with a 3rd for a traffic cone a injury prone middle 6 winger and a 1st no chance.

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 18

WranglerWranglin

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Robertson is not interesting at all in a deal, undersized, left shot, can't stay healthy and plays the same position where the Flames have Pelletier, Honzek, Zary, all of which are 22 or younger. Robertson doesn't fit a need whatsoever.

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 24

DRW2025

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Add a 1st+ for the trade.

Kane isn't set to meet with TML so I think it's a stretch he will go there.

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 29

Slendermin

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Quoting: Hckeydude123

Calgary aint giving up Hanifin 50% retained with a 3rd for a traffic cone a injury prone middle 6 winger and a 1st no chance.

Fair enough .. Let me ask you this, how would your view change if Robertson continues at a point-per-game pace for like another ~15-20 games with no injuries? He's gotten pretty unlucky and hasn't had a decent enough run in the NHL to firmly categorize him as a middle six winger, IMO. Would you be interested in a 22-year old, former OHL goal scoring leader (55G in 46 games), who hasn't really had a real chance until now, and is putting up top line numbers in exchange for your 2-3 Dman who we're assuming (in this scenario) will walk in the offseason? 1st for a 3rd is in exchange for paying Klingberg $1M to singlehandedly increase your draft position lol

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 30

Slendermin

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Quoting: Kinger25

Flames likely decline but if Robertson is getting traded this would be the trade I’d want, but Hanifin hasn’t been linked to the leafs once and likely won’t waive

Ya it's maybe unlikely, but figured I'd throw it in to make the $$$ work. What do you think of the Kane strategy?

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 33

Slendermin

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Quoting: DRW2025

Add a 1st+ for the trade.

Kane isn't set to meet with TML so I think it's a stretch he will go there.

Are the reports that he already met with them false? Honest question, since it's hard to know what to believe these days lol

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 37

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Kane will be signed some time this month. Calgary doesn't have remotely enough cap space to do this unless they make other trades first. Which won't happen since they are on record to not be rushing anything

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 37

Traptor

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Add Niemela and I would do it.

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16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 39

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Quoting: WranglerWranglin

I think both Honzek and Zary have the potential to move to center. I would have interest in Robertson but I would have more interest in Liljegren, Minten, or Niemela from Toronto. I would take Robertson over Cowen though

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16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 39

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Slendermin

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Quoting: Traptor

Add Niemela and I would do it.

I think Leafs would consider it with a Hanifin extension in place.

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16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 41

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Kinger25

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Quoting: Slendermin

Ya it's maybe unlikely, but figured I'd throw it in to make the $$$ work. What do you think of the Kane strategy?

I’m not interested in Kane forwards are firing on all cylinders why mess with that but there is a chance he signs with us

16 nov. 2023 à 12 h 42

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Quoting: WranglerWranglin

I mean, he puts it in the net, we could use that. I do agree that we have more than enough undersized left shots and mixing him in just over complicates a mediocre mess of middle 6 guys.

16 nov. 2023 à 13 h 3

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Quoting: Slendermin

Are the reports that he already met with them false? Honest question, since it's hard to know what to believe these days lol

Well the guy who said it happened said it didn;t

16 nov. 2023 à 13 h 7

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WranglerWranglin

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Minten would be the one I would target out of that group, the Flames are a mushy mess of 20 - 22 year old middle 6 prospects, Minten buys you some more years of control as opposed to Robertson and the Flames could fit him in a new core age much better. I personally don't have much interest in Robertson, I shouldn't say "the Flames have no interest" cause I have less than zero clue.

Quoting: oilfire

I mean, he puts it in the net, we could use that. I do agree that we have more than enough undersized left shots and mixing him in just over complicates a mediocre mess of middle 6 guys.

Mediocre mix of a middle six is a perfect way of putting it. The pipeline is similar to the roster in that there is zero punch outside of hopefully Coronato.

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16 nov. 2023 à 13 h 18

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Quoting: WranglerWranglin

Klapkas big and scores, I don't know what he'll be in the NHL, sounds like most people cap him as a bottom 6 guy but who knows. All I know is somebodys gotta go.

16 nov. 2023 à 13 h 57

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Quoting: Kinger25

I’m not interested in Kane forwards are firing on all cylinders why mess with that but there is a chance he signs with us

Ya I really don't think Kane would add much to this group. I just put it together cause I thought it was an interesting chance for the Leafs to use their financial might, in a cap world.

I wouldn't say the forwards are firing on ALL cylinders since defence is a "cylinder" after all, but they have looked much better in the last two games anyways.

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