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Three Way Trade

Créé par: Celtics21
Équipe: 2023-24 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 25 oct. 2023
Publié: 26 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It basically translates to the return for Ullmark, Lysell, Geekie, and Grzelcyk for Hertl and Kapponen (retained at 50% for one year). San Jose gets an interesting prospect in Lysell plus a first and Geekie. Grzelcyk should be moveable for another asset. I probably wait til next year, but it’s interesting
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UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
Transactions
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BOS
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Skinner, Stuart
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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Rachats de contrats
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $81 678 334 $4 500 000 $580 000 $1 821 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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11 250 000 $11 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 8
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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870 000 $870 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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787 500 $787 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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3 475 000 $3 475 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 137 500 $1 137 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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26 oct. 2023 à 10 h 13
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Interesting idea
26 oct. 2023 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: JesikaMorris
Interesting idea


My perspective is there is no way the Bruins trade Ullmark unless they get immediate upgrades that help them win this year. I see Edmonton having a hard time doing that without having an uncomfortable discussion with a full NMC player

Hertl should definitely embrace this. My guess is Ullmark would not have Edmonton on his NMC, but if they were … I don’t think Boston does this.

In the end, I don’t think Boston trades one of their goalies this year
26 oct. 2023 à 10 h 43
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My perspective is there is no way the Bruins trade Ullmark unless they get immediate upgrades that help them win this year. I see Edmonton having a hard time doing that without having an uncomfortable discussion with a full NMC player

Hertl should definitely embrace this. My guess is Ullmark would not have Edmonton on his NMC, but if they were … I don’t think Boston does this.

In the end, I don’t think Boston trades one of their goalies this year


I think they need to trade Ullmark let swayman take over as starter he’s well worth it
26 oct. 2023 à 10 h 45
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I think they need to trade Ullmark let swayman take over as starter he’s well worth it


Ultimately, I think that is what is going to happen … but this year, there is an argument for rotating them and saying I think we can score more than 2 goals when either of them play. People want to credit Boston’s defense for making the goaltenders when I actually think they are an important part of the equation. Ullmark has always been athletic. He’s now fundamentally sound. Essensa is a damn good goalie coach
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26 oct. 2023 à 11 h 33
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It's an interesting idea from a Sharks perspective with about fair value. Sharks get off the Hertl contract and gain a 1st with no retention. Lysell is Boston's top AHL prospect, but I don't think he's on a slam dunk development path (compare him to say Tristen Robins for example and their numbers are similar). You may need a 2nd team to retain on Kahkonen for a 4th or something.

There is a problem with all the contracts coming back to the Sharks since we don't have enough spots. We already took on so many journeyman players in the Karlsson trade that we would probably need to waive some legitimate NHL player for no value. However, if Tomas Hertl went to Mike Grier and demanded a trade to Boston (necessary since he has a NMC), this would definitely be an acceptable solution.
26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 57
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It's an interesting idea from a Sharks perspective with about fair value. Sharks get off the Hertl contract and gain a 1st with no retention. Lysell is Boston's top AHL prospect, but I don't think he's on a slam dunk development path (compare him to say Tristen Robins for example and their numbers are similar). You may need a 2nd team to retain on Kahkonen for a 4th or something.

There is a problem with all the contracts coming back to the Sharks since we don't have enough spots. We already took on so many journeyman players in the Karlsson trade that we would probably need to waive some legitimate NHL player for no value. However, if Tomas Hertl went to Mike Grier and demanded a trade to Boston (necessary since he has a NMC), this would definitely be an acceptable solution.


From my perspective, you have a bunch of journeyman players you can cut and move to the AHL if you wanted. Nothing on the San Jose roster that you’d consider moving down would stop this deal even though I agree it’s a lot of moving parts.

I really have very little interest in Kahkonnen. I just included him because you’d have to bury him or Skinner if this trade went through. I’d be perfectly content with Bussi this year. It’s more a polite gesture rather than a desire to secure the player

With regards to Lysell, both his upside and downside are immense. Robbins is not near Lysell from a talent perspective, but the questions with Lysell are clear

1. Will be let others create for him?

If he utilized his elite speed with players doing tape to tape passes, my perspective is he’d be in the NHL right now. He tries to use his puck control and handle to create his options. It makes for some great highlights, but he’s basically leaving his greatest asset on the table too much because of it

2. Will he find a balance between reckless and fearful in attacking the net?

That cheap shot he took last year appears to have toned down his aggressiveness going to the net. I think there is a happy medium from where he was and where he is.

His upside is immense if he accepts what he is. Significantly higher than many prospects rated higher than him, but his downside is pretty big too. His history with another top prospect in your org should help.
 
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