Whether it’s injuries, new system, or chemistry issues….many of the players this team is gonna need a lot from this year have looked anywhere from ho-hum to awful in pre-season so far. Can’t argue with your rankings here.

Gotta give it some time…I mean- any real mystery who the final cuts will be? Let’s just get on with it so that the players that will be here get a chance to play together, develop chemistry, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if the first 10-15 games are pretty rough.

Can be the core just not wanting to buy in, which can have been the issue from the beginning. It does seem to be their call If something is turned around or not. With Panarin dictating whom they TDL trade for and Fox, Zibanejad, Kreider and Panarin dictating whom they play with. Or hopefully they don't care about preseason results and somehow using these setbacks for strong season showing. But it is noticeable how bad they played.

It's way to early to make the assumption that the players are fighting what Lav is trying to implement...but if any of that comes to light, then that player (or players) need to be treated the way ADA was-while the team attempts to remove the malcontent(s)...the way these guys suddenly disappeared after being up 2-0 in series the past 2 years- none of them should have any say in the path NYR are taking to move forward. And if any of these guys don't "like" the path- they better respond to it by giving 100%, as they put in their trade request and waive their movement clauses!

Oh I one hundred percent agree with that statement. I seriously wouldn't mind seeing another tare down. So tired of hearing Zibanejad excuses, and Kreider and Panarin coming with empty words. Problem with Panarin no one takes that contract.

Again...getting way ahead of ourselves- but 40-50 games in if that's what this team shows it needs...then let's get on with it.

As far as Zib- I really don't have complaints with his effort or what he brings...but I've heard enough about his DJ pursuits in the off season. I'd like to hear about what he has done to improve his game. Not that there is anything glaringly deficient. But if McDavid could dedicate a summer to- get this- improve his skating (which he did 2-3 years ago), I think Zib can find something in his game to try to improve.

And Panarin- between the NMC and the contract...he's going nowhere unless he relents on his NMC AND NYR eat significant salary. To break him on the NMC matter I'm guessing would rquire banishment to the press box. This isn't happening unless midway through the season the team decides to mail it in and break it down again.

It’s hilarious how fast this fanbase turns on the team. I don’t recall anyone complaining when this team reached the ECF lol

No why should someone complain about that? And I'm simply pointing out issues during preseason.
As for Panarin I never liked that signing. I didn't understand it, especially since they just started rebuild and they sign the biggest contract in NHL.
I wasn't crazy about keeping Kreider either but at least he is half price of Panarin.