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Toews in Manson out

Créé par: NMAvsFan
Équipe: 2024-25 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 27 sept. 2023
Publié: 28 sept. 2023
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Toews takes the extra year to get the AAV down in order to stay while still getting $50M in total compensation and play for a winner. Manson has to go to balance the books and open up a spot for a D that isn't injured all the time. Either Landy comes back or they permanently LTIR his contract and go shopping in UFA or via trade for a replacement. Clearly, they'll have more tough decisions to make in the future in order to pay for raises for Bo, Rants and Makar but that's how it goes when you're in your window.
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28 sept. 2023 à 13 h 46
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Yep. Or Girard, who is significantly more tradable. But Manson is who I'd prefer to trade as well

It would be great if Calum Ritchie was ready to go next year, either at C or wing.

And I like Aho, I don't like $3mil for a 3rd pairing D. Avs are probably looking for a trade or waiver claim at LD this year that they can either extend or already has term thru next season that can replace JJ this year and take the job next year.
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28 sept. 2023 à 14 h 24
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Toews can easily get $8,000,000 per long term on the open market, No reason for him to take less from Colorado.
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28 sept. 2023 à 15 h 16
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Toews gets 8
28 sept. 2023 à 15 h 17
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Aho gets 1.5 MAX
28 sept. 2023 à 16 h 15
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Toews can easily get $8,000,000 per long term on the open market, No reason for him to take less from Colorado.


He said at media day that he'd take less to stay. I think this is a little TOO less but I wouldn't be surprised with $6.5-7 if he gets the 8th year.
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28 sept. 2023 à 16 h 18
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He said at media day that he'd take less to stay. I think this is a little TOO less but I wouldn't be surprised with $6.5-7 if he gets the 8th year.


8 x $7,000,000 i could see, But the OPs signing is definitely a tad too low.
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28 sept. 2023 à 17 h 44
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8 x $7,000,000 i could see, But the OPs signing is definitely a tad too low.


Here's why this is a perfectly plausible scenario:

It's unlikely anyone is signing him for more than 6 years as a UFA at his age; it's practically unheard of to sign a D (or any player, for that matter) to a long-term, expensive deal after they turn 30 and he'll be halfway to 31 when next season starts. If he got $9Mx6 in UFA, that's $54M total; $6.25Mx8 is $50M total so that's the discount to stay in a familiar, winning situation. $7-8M is too high for the Avs, especially at 7-8 years. To me, this is the deal; I'd maybe go to $6.5 which is $52M total. If someone offered him $8Mx7 in UFA (as you suggest), that's $56M in total so still a $4M discount. Structure and trade protection would have to be heavily negotiated as well but the total compensation is pretty damn close; if they offer him a lot of money in signing bonuses, give him the trade protection he wants and give him the 8th year, that could seal the deal if he's serious about taking a discount to stay. $4M left on the table isn't anything to sniff at and it isn't my money but guys do stuff like this all the time to be in a situation they prefer.
28 sept. 2023 à 17 h 45
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Aho gets 1.5 MAX


Even better
28 sept. 2023 à 17 h 45
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Toews gets 8


Not for 8 years he doesn't, not at his age
28 sept. 2023 à 17 h 47
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Not for 8 years he doesn't, not at his age


Then don’t give him 8 years seems pretty simple
28 sept. 2023 à 17 h 49
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Then don’t give him 8 years seems pretty simple


Or pay him less for the extra year? Seems pretty simple for the Avs if they want to keep him around.
28 sept. 2023 à 18 h 59
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Or pay him less for the extra year? Seems pretty simple for the Avs if they want to keep him around.


Sign him to 8Mx6 years
28 sept. 2023 à 19 h 0
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And if you guys don’t sign him to that someone else will man I’d almost expect him to make more than that on the open market
 
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